Originally posted by Jed
I agree the points are completely ludicrous. Poor white balance has to be the stupidest argument the world has ever seen. Sure it's not as accurate as using CC filters, but then again, that's like comparing apples with oranges all over again. If you are going to apply CC filters to MF cameras, then you should be applying CC filters to digital SLRs too with a standard daylight white balance. If you argue different cameras have slightly different renditions, well exactly the same goes for different film stock, even different film batches.
Originally posted by Jed
No, you understand me wrong. I'm not saying that digital white balance, whether on camera, or in Photoshop, is better than conventional CC filters. What I'm saying is, to slate the technology for being not accurate enough (and let's fact it, it's not) is being unfair, simply because if they adopted the same shooting procedure as with their existing film setup, by using CC filters, then they would be able to accomplish exactly the same with digital.
Originally posted by jasonpgc
I think the bottom line is knowing the characteristic of the digital medium. If you take slides, you shouldn't have any problem with exposure for CCDs
Slide = exposure for highlights = narrow latitude
CCD/CMOS = exposure for highlights = narrow latitude
Originally posted by tsdh
off topic;
by the way, are you sure by adding CC filter without further adjusment (just default automated white-balance), the result would be the same as analog?
Originally posted by Jed
No, not automated white balance, I didn't say that, I said daylight white balance, which is of course what most film is balanced for anyway. Film needs balancing as well, and this is done by the film manufacturers. Yes, it should be the same, with the caveat as I said earlier that different films have different palettes so likewise there will be subtle shifts, but in terms of white balance, then yes, setting a digital camera to daylight or tungten should yield the same results as using a daylight or tungsten film respectively.
I would have thought that pretty obvious, so maybe I'm not understanding your question correctly, apologies if that's the case.
Oh and just a point of interest, I'm seeing this all over the place, but just what is analog photography?
Originally posted by jasonpgc
I think the bottom line is knowing the characteristic of the digital medium. If you take slides, you shouldn't have any problem with exposure for CCDs
Slide = exposure for highlights = narrow latitude
CCD/CMOS = exposure for highlights = narrow latitude
Originally posted by tsdh
As far as I know, in digital, the s/w (inside or outside camera) will do white-balance (or daylight-balance) based on certain calculation from the data. So if the data is shifted (because of filtering the whole image, not partial), then the s/w will realign the data, creating un-natural color. To precisely correcting color, a manual adjustment should be done in the post-processing or RAW conversion. Only our eyes can see what is right, not the s/w.
Analog photography? it is just a term depicting traditional film photography. Become popular after digital photography come into picture. (Just as; digital audio vs analog audio).
rgds.
Originally posted by Jed
No, you are wrong on the digital front.
And go check up the meaning of analog in a dictionary too. Try dictionary.com and then run the same search through the thesaurus on the same site. Another one of the Internet's great many misconceptions.
And no, I didn't say Jason was wrong, just that it was a serious over-simplification. CCDs do have a very narrow latitude. This is a slightly more complicated area of digital photography to grasp than white balance issues so I'd sort that out first.