I think the patient monetary state must be very very poor stage before they can look into these resources :sweat:
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that is why there is a saying, in Singapore, if you fall sick, make sure you die..... if you dont die, the medical bills will kill you and your family.
It sound depressing, especially regarding in terms of Quality of Life (where other 1st world country are looking into) :cry:.
I guess in Singapore, self dignity is not a privilege, one got to earn it by oneself.
Yes, I agree things are cheaper in Malaysia. But why essential items are cheaper there and not in Singapore?
What went wrong here?
I remember an article about Madam Jin Pai Mia. The article compares Madam Jin monthly salary of $1,500 to a domestic helper's salary of $300. And it turns out the domestic helper is better off than Madam Jin.:bsmilie::bsmilie:
If you look at my full sentence,
As I mentioned looking at Salary alone is superficial. A better way will be co-payment by citizens. You pay for the same rate to get consultation, but if bills for the medicine, will depend on your income level, those who earn more will pay more.
I said that medical consultation, access to doctors should be readily available to all, regardless of your income. Paying for medicines should be based on your income level, those who are rich get less subsidies, and those who are poor are heaviliy subsidised, and the income level assessement level should be restricted to the patients, not the WHOLE family, as I mentioned, the other family members may have heavy financial burdens.
The drug companies and medical docs may be :think: responsilble for the increase, there are a whole lot of stories in there, which i personally heard, that is too shocking :bigeyes: to believe that it is true. I wont state it here because I dont want to be sued for libel haahah:bsmilie:
Well said, remember Mr Brown? He merely state that prices will increase after election, which is a true fact now, and he got shot down for his alternative views, the govt said that he gave unconstructive criticism.
The State want us to give open feedback, but once your opinion gain too much support from the ground and a threat to them, they will shoot you down, IMOH.
Really ar, if I had money I would have enough lenses to breed.
Kit lens and Sigma 10-20 (after having to save painstakingly for like, 4 months plus) put together get what sort of lens ar? =D
Is your knowledge unlimited? Is your experience unlimited?
Wink.
You are from Britain? I'm going there soon, will get to see it for myself, shrug.
I never did assumed mine is broader than everyone's, and I am more than willing to admit my sources, unlike certain people who just present their views and never bother to explain.
If I didn't explain where I was coming from, there would be nothing to attack in the first place, so kindly keep that in mind.
Right now, it's a lot better than it was in the past, I'm sure you'd agree to that too. When it first came out, the UK side totally messed around with it, didn't bother to think it through properly. The kinks are still being ironed out, so there's a lot more improvement these days.
And btw, I didn't just read ONE x article and make my conclusions. If I did that it would have been rather hypocritical, don't you think?
Fair enough, let's have a comparison to some other country then:
Mr A Singaporean and Mr B British, both down with Colon cancer.
Mr A is treated in a private hospital and Mr B is also treated in a private hospital but in UK.
Both use the same drug and similar procedure.
Mr A pays XXX SGD for the treatment,
Mr B pays XXX pounds for the treatment,
No matter what, Mr B's cost is definitely going to PWN Mr A's cost because he happens to be living in a country with higher living costs.
Why do we need to compare? What I cannot tolerate is the need to always compare to some place seemingly better or some place seemingly worse - my reply to that is always to offer an counterexample with an equally idiotic comparison, but no one ever seems to point that out.
What we should be talking about is HOW best to improve the situation HERE.
It is like one of my favourite authors wrote on you know, the common threat that parents make to force kids to finish their food, about how the people in Africa are dying, etc, so we should not waste. It's not as if finishing your food would make them feel better. Same thing here, you are NOT addressing the problem by comparing to country XXX. So what? Is it a race to be the most benevolent government in the world? Do we win an award? Is it that easy - that's my question as always.
I detest it when people are unhappy when I disagree with the common viewpoint. Not happy, use logic, don't just after a while just du lan and use emotive/ad hominem arguments. Attacking the person, instead of his argument, is paramount to your admission that your argument sucks big time so you have to resort to personal methods to try to prove your point. Not that it's happened much here, though, I must say, quite happy about that.
Ah, thanks for the explanation, apologise for reading too fast.
Fair enough, but it's still linked to salary, hmm?
I see where you're coming from, really, but the cruel fact is that consultation often is a relatively small chunk compared to the medicines, so it doesn't make any difference to anyone even if it is taken out of the picture.
In any case, I really do not think that the government owes us a living; largely an advocate of taking personal responsibility for one's self - after all it is YOU, yourself who is in charge of yourself. Quite abhor any welfare-orientated system, because frankly to me it discourages hard work; given the reality that there are people who do not even get a choice, these are the ones that need help, and should be given help.
After all, there is a difference between the person who was born with a heart defect to a poor family, compared to the person who was born normal, but just screwed up his heart with a McDonald's diet. The problem with a "all for one, one for all" healthcare system is precisely this, instead of preventing the problem, we resort to ignoring it because we know that there'll be a cure out there to catch us when we fall. When was the last time any of you exercised regularly? =)
Its so sad that most, if not all, of your comments are true. When I was youger, I had a very good friend who was a Dutch citizen. He was paying up to 60% of his income in taxes. I told him that even though I was only paying about 20% of my income in taxes (this was 30 years ago), I would rather pay his rates because the government would look after him should he fall ill, get retrenched, grow old, etc. etc. etc. I thought that he had a better deal..now 30 years on, I am certain he had a better deal! We get nothing from our government unless you are destitute and then you get something like about $65 per month (its been revised recently but I don't know how much!). My pet grief over the years is the story about the samsui women. They had families - husbands and sons and when World War 2 came about, many of their menfolk were killed during the war, with a lot of them giving their lives for Singapore. Thus they had to go out and work to survive as they no longer had their next of kin to look after them. Do you think the govt. has ever helped them out?
You talk about insurance - well I'm covered until I'm 65 years old and for me that's only 3 years left to go. After that ? I don't know but all I know is that I cannot afford to fall ill! I encourage everyone to take out health insurance but the sad fact of life is that when we are most vulnerable, after 65 years old, health insurance is unobtainable then - just when we need it most. Talk about giving umbrellas on sunny days and taking them away when it rains!
No I better stop before I get too morose. I'm sorry to hear about your plight and I understand what you are going through. I just wish we had a more caring govt.
You talk about insurance - well I'm covered until I'm 65 years old and for me that's only 3 years left to go. After that ? I don't know but all I know is that I cannot afford to fall ill! I encourage everyone to take out health insurance but the sad fact of life is that when we are most vulnerable, after 65 years old, health insurance is unobtainable then - just when we need it most. Talk about giving umbrellas on sunny days and taking them away when it rains!
No I better stop before I get too morose. I'm sorry to hear about your plight and I understand what you are going through. I just wish we had a more caring govt.
And could you raise some personal experience examples to counter what I have read on the NHS?
Or are you just going to sit around and claim that my statements are sweeping? What is the exact situation over there? I have newspaper articles to back me up, what about you? Or do you just have some claim that you come from Britain, and situation is not like that?
What have you gone through? You are there, you should tell the world what it is like, instead of just saying IT IS NOT SO, without backing anything up, seems rather hypocritical after calling me names, don't you think?
P.S. It's none of your business, thankyew! From my various forays on the Internet I have met various people who claimed this and claimed that, in the end proven to be hot air, which is why I tend to double guess anyone, shrug. And I've written A LOT MORE than what you quoted, so perhaps you should examine what you are saying, have a good day. Ignored list. You don't strike me as one living in Britain, because from what I've heard the culture there is a lot more open, and people actually take each other seriously and with respect.
So what of the people who died? Just simply because you have not undergone a horrible experience, does not mean that the critics and the statistics which BACK UP the critics are wrong. YOUR experience. Based on YOUR experience, I believe to see what a broader picture is, instead of taking your word of mouth for it.
Hiya forget it..... just carry on the discussion and ignore him... every post just makes him more and more like a rabid party member... defending for the sake of defending to the point of sounding irrational.....
To party members and leaders..... , the more you and your followers try to put us down, the more we will ask questions.... Till the next election.....
To party members and leaders..... , the more you and your followers try to put us down, the more we will ask questions.... Till the next election.....
You also? =(
I thought you were ok.
Alright, I'll just not post on anything like this again, having been gagged by the anti-party members.
Back to inane threads and photos 101. =( =( =( note: I actually post more photos than most of the members here. I must be a very free party member indeed, tsk tsk! This is the trend of Singapore, where the people who profess that they have no freedom of speech resort to pressurising means and name-calling to gag people.
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Btw, people do mass orders to Britain these days?? :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
I thought you were ok.
Alright, I'll just not post on anything like this again, having been gagged by the anti-party members.
Back to inane threads and photos 101. =( =( =( note: I actually post more photos than most of the members here. I must be a very free party member indeed, tsk tsk! This is the trend of Singapore, where the people who profess that they have no freedom of speech resort to pressurising means and name-calling to gag people.
\emosob
Btw, people do mass orders to Britain these days?? :bsmilie: :bsmilie:
None of a life is cheap. No matter what happen to you, must keep on breathing as we know it's kind of hard in this "nice nice" reality world
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