Saw this camera on the online store, camera.co.id, and they got 3 Leica cameras on sale. Found the d-lux 4 to be really neat, like a miniature Leica. It was only later that I learnt from ChimpChimp that they now even got the Lux5. Learnt even more from fellow CS that the camera was the exact copy of Panasonic equivalent. It is a pity, as I thought it would be nice to have a little Leica PNS with attitude. I know it is stupid but the Leica design was what attract me first. Guess I will continue to carry my DSLR for a bit longer. Many thanks for the enlightenment.