kit lens upgrade..


candycaine

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I'm trying to do you a favour by recommending the kit lens many, many times. In fact, I recommended this in your other thread when you were asking about lenses that can do bokeh.

My frank opinion is that if you want to spend unnecessarily, then go ahead. While you're at it, you can buy a Leica....
 

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You haven't shot a single image but you start discussing things like the noise of AF motors? :bigeyes:
Please, do yourself a favour and stick to basics. Even if this thread is for your sister, people with no knowledge at all should stick to kit lenses and start walking there. Personally, I have the Tamron 17-50 since more than 2 years. I seldom had the situation where the AF motor was clearly audible. But the lens gave me lots of sharp pictures. What will you show online, to your friends, family..? Noise or sharp images?
On short focal length the IS is less relevant. Rarely had the situation where I needed IS. Either I had a tripod or there was enough light / flash. IS becomes helpful at 85mm or longer lenses. Check the reviews about performance differences.
i did borrow my friend 500d to shoot before.. i just dunnoe hows the noise on 17-50 only..

may i know which review sites u go to?
 

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I'm trying to do you a favour by recommending the kit lens many, many times. In fact, I recommended this in your other thread when you were asking about lenses that can do bokeh.

My frank opinion is that if you want to spend unnecessarily, then go ahead. While you're at it, you can buy a Leica....
this thread is for my sis.. was intro to 17-50 so i just ask lor.. whats is leica?
 

tecnica

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i.... ran out of words to say.
 

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i did borrow my friend 500d to shoot before.. i just dunnoe hows the noise on 17-50 only..
may i know which review sites u go to?
this thread is for my sis.. was intro to 17-50 so i just ask lor.. whats is leica?
Here comes the spoon, please return properly washed for the next newbie :)
Photozone: http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos
DPReview: http://www.dpreview.com
Bot Atkins: http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/reviews/index.html
Fred Miranda: http://www.fredmiranda.com/
Or just simply use Google and feed it with "[lens type] review". Feel free to use it in a similar way for Leica :)
 

whyseeyellow

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yah i know.. i am just checking it out only.. i am looking at 15-85mm but its so exp!! why dun they have a normal 15-85mm lens..
What do u mean by normal? Cheaper version? 17-85 which i'm using. Not brilliant but definitely gd enough for beginners like us.
 

Sivakis

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While I agree with others who have said that investment into a good lens is a good idea in the "long run", I beg to differ from it slightly in that if a person who hasn't owned a DSLR or used a DSLR, there's no real evidence to show that an "invested lens" is a good investment. Not until the user has had a chance to explore:
1. What they shoot?
2. How they shoot?

Of course, those who excess $$ need not apply.

One of the reasons why I appreciated my 18-55IS more was only after I received my lens filter (some free filter worth $40-60 given by shop). The difference with and without that filter became apparent almost immediately.

So, if you don't know what you generally shoot most or if you don't know the environment that you normally find yourself shooting in, "investing" in any upper-tier lens is a gamble at best. Moreover, for TS, you're asking on behalf of your sister. Why not get your sister to post here and get the answers based on her preferences? Or is this "sister" a replacement for yourself? :)
 

fotomachen

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TS, i will also recommend that you start with kit lens first. your budget of $1.3k is not exactly a huge sum of money to start this hobby. go with the kit lens and know your shooting styles; likes and dislikes.

If you feel that 55mm is too short for you, you can always zoom with your legs...don't be lazy to walk nearer or further to the object you want to shoot. You might just find that different perspective/angle to shoot.
 

zozzcyx

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TS, for your sister or not your sister, I would say that it is better to just get a kit lens first, whats the point of splurging $900 on a lens when you are new and your budget is not exactly wide?

Do consider that 18-55 IS costing about 300+ according to the price guide can still give you much spare cash to perhaps get a flash light such as the 580ex2 or 430 that I think would be essential for family event shooting. Even if you get the 580ex2, you will still have enough to buy a good b+w filter for your lens, and like what many other cs-ers said, the 18-55 is a brilliant piece of glass for you to start with.

1.3k may not be alot, but depending on how you use it, it might actually be quite significant. :)
 

engrmariano

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o.0 whats the beginner mistake? :sweatsm:
like what you're doing right now...

  • want to upgrade from kit lens but dont know why.
  • posting redundant threads like this and not searching the net. [every thing you need to know is one search away]
 

jackaltan

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When you've never tried, you'll never know. Try out the 18-55 kit lens first, then you'll know what kinda lens you will need next.
 

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What do u mean by normal? Cheaper version? 17-85 which i'm using. Not brilliant but definitely gd enough for beginners like us.
erm yup.. i meant cheaper version.. how much did u bought it for? USM de?
 

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When you've never tried, you'll never know. Try out the 18-55 kit lens first, then you'll know what kinda lens you will need next.
TS, for your sister or not your sister, I would say that it is better to just get a kit lens first, whats the point of splurging $900 on a lens when you are new and your budget is not exactly wide?

Do consider that 18-55 IS costing about 300+ according to the price guide can still give you much spare cash to perhaps get a flash light such as the 580ex2 or 430 that I think would be essential for family event shooting. Even if you get the 580ex2, you will still have enough to buy a good b+w filter for your lens, and like what many other cs-ers said, the 18-55 is a brilliant piece of glass for you to start with.

1.3k may not be alot, but depending on how you use it, it might actually be quite significant. :)
TS, i will also recommend that you start with kit lens first. your budget of $1.3k is not exactly a huge sum of money to start this hobby. go with the kit lens and know your shooting styles; likes and dislikes.

If you feel that 55mm is too short for you, you can always zoom with your legs...don't be lazy to walk nearer or further to the object you want to shoot. You might just find that different perspective/angle to shoot.
ok! maybe i should just stick to 18-55mm first.. and for my sister she said she will like a basic kit set so will get the 500dkit.. thanks..
 

Sivakis

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Don't take this the wrong way. Take a closer and more objective read of the replies in here. There's actually tips and tricks or pre-empts to be found. Stuff that others may have had to find out the hard (and sometimes costly) way.

As a chinese saying goes - the thing is dead, the human is alive. Adapt and learn new and better ways to use that "dead" equipment ;)
 

NYCer

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ok! maybe i should just stick to 18-55mm first.. and for my sister she said she will like a basic kit set so will get the 500dkit.. thanks..
If your sister is staying in the same household as you, you can considering combining your funds to get one camera body instead of getting 2. Since both of you are beginners, this can save some money if one of you loses interest in the future.
 

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If your sister is staying in the same household as you, you can considering combining your funds to get one camera body instead of getting 2. Since both of you are beginners, this can save some money if one of you loses interest in the future.
will consider! thanks!:D