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redrose9

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I'm brand new to this forum. I love photography and I'm hoping to learn alot here. Right now I'm trying to figure out how to get the bokeh look with my camera. I don't have a DSLR or anything so I'm hoping I can still make it happen. ;)
 

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B-setting

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welcome!

would love to see some sample shots with bokeh. :)
 

Rashkae

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welcome!

would love to see some sample shots with bokeh. :)
Please be aware that bokeh DOES NOT mean "out of focus areas". Rather, bokeh is the quality of those out of focus areas.
 

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Please be aware that bokeh DOES NOT mean "out of focus areas". Rather, bokeh is the quality of those out of focus areas.
but then, how do you define the "quality" of out-of-focus areas?

we noobies usually stereotype out-of-focus areas as bad.

but i have read some posting with samples taken with the 50mm f/1.2, where users define a good quality bokeh pic as one having the least distraction from the object-in-focus. for a noobie like me, it simply means the more blur the background is, the better.

:confused:
 

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but then, how do you define the "quality" of out-of-focus areas?

we noobies usually stereotype out-of-focus areas as bad.

but i have read some posting with samples taken with the 50mm f/1.2, where users define a good quality bokeh pic as one having the least distraction from the object-in-focus. for a noobie like me, it simply means the more blur the background is, the better.

:confused:
It's also the quality of the specular highlights, etc. There's a huge amount of info online (with examples), including in wiki.
 

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but then, how do you define the "quality" of out-of-focus areas?

we noobies usually stereotype out-of-focus areas as bad.

but i have read some posting with samples taken with the 50mm f/1.2, where users define a good quality bokeh pic as one having the least distraction from the object-in-focus. for a noobie like me, it simply means the more blur the background is, the better.

:confused:

for starters...you have to understand the make up of the lens and its elements at its very basic level.

As in the case of all lenses, they consist of blades which make the diaphragm of the lens body. Depending on the lens it can consists of 7-8 blades. The rule of thumb here is that the more the blades the better the quality of the bokeh. For most and I say most lenses, the number of blades are between 7-8. I have seen lens specs that have 9-10 blades.

The next thing is this, the idea here is that a lot of people tend to mix bokeh with DOF. DOF at the basic level is the distance between the subject foreground and background. Search for CalebK in this forum and you will see what is DOF. Both shallow and deep. Some lenses like the 85 1.2 L if you are using Canon, at wide is razor thin DOF.

Bokeh quality can be defined at its basic as the "roundness" of the bokeh highlights. The idea here is at 100% crop, the bokeh should be almost round. Using the Canon as an example, compare the 50 1.2L ,50 1.4 and 50 1.8. The quality of the OOF areas differs. For the L, no questions asked. Very good quality bokeh. Almost round. Next is the 1.4. Round, but within the shape, you can still see a certain hexagonal shape within it, but still acceptable. The next is 1.8. The hexagaonal shape is pronounced. Unless you are a pixel peeper or the quality of the bokeh is your major bugbear and $$$ is not an issue, get the best. Else the next set of lens I have mentioned are good enough.
 

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hi

another one to the big family of clubsnap. welcome mate

Cheers
Shaz
 

Rashkae

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Bokeh quality can be defined at its basic as the "roundness" of the bokeh highlights. The idea here is at 100% crop, the bokeh should be almost round. Using the Canon as an example, compare the 50 1.2L ,50 1.4 and 50 1.8. The quality of the OOF areas differs. For the L, no questions asked. Very good quality bokeh. Almost round. Next is the 1.4. Round, but within the shape, you can still see a certain hexagonal shape within it, but still acceptable. The next is 1.8. The hexagaonal shape is pronounced. Unless you are a pixel peeper or the quality of the bokeh is your major bugbear and $$$ is not an issue, get the best. Else the next set of lens I have mentioned are good enough.
Not just the shape... but also the harshness of the highlights, specifically the edges of the specular highlights.
 

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