Hague ruled against China


can100D

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in this world, whoever has stronger muscles writes the law.

it is a fact of life.

too bad.
 

Jedi

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Of course China will reject the verdict. She knows that she has the bargaining power. Who dares to touch her? She is the no. 2 economic powerhouse, top 3 richest country in the world, military power is also not weak. She has nuke too.

In summary, the dispute will continue. Maybe a third world war will settle it.
 

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Of course China will reject the verdict. She knows that she has the bargaining power. Who dares to touch her? She is the no. 2 economic powerhouse, top 3 richest country in the world, military power is also not weak. She has nuke too.

In summary, the dispute will continue. Maybe a third world war will settle it.
+1. China simply doesnt care. It controls everything in country.
 

Ted888

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don't forget your grand grand parents might have poo at those islands before coming to Singapore or return to China.
 

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The Panda has become the Dragon!
 

Yappy

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Intersting...who is behind the scene!
 

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UN? LOL

I still say it is called SCS for a reason.

Nothing is going to happen. China is export driven country exporting vast majority of it's products to EU or USA. Jeopardize either relationship and the 'new' Chinese economic powerhouse will wilt within a year or two...people get pissed...overthrow Xi and crew.

Nothing will happen...media and kangaroo UN court just riling markets...

If I were Chinese I would have LOL'd when POTUS mentioned pivot to Pacific...

China doesn't want a shooting game either...there is a very good reason behind that too. :)

China really screwed up when she lost control of Korean peninsula...screwed up big time...so until she gets Korea back she'll never be what she once was...my opinion.
 

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can100D

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they should hv reminded people that they hv established their presence and control since the 13th century under the Ming, and Zheng He's famous voyages, projecting his country's power far and wide.

It was also mentioned that it was Zheng He, not columbus who discovered America first. His ship was more than 5 times larger than columbus'.

LOL,
 

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I am one of those who believe Columbus used Chinese made maps to get to the new world...say that around where I live and you'll get interesting responses...lol

It is true however and the history has been rewritten in favor of the so called victors.
 

can100D

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come to think of it, we should not hv always condemned China made products. Many of great inventions were made by the Chinese, eg gun powder, compass, seismic detector, astronomy to name just a few

We should instead blame the stupidity of those who give the contracts. They want cheap and green. Lowest quote. Cut cost. Sure bad quality lah.

Someone ever said [from the horse's mouth] "All good things come with a price". They seems to hv forgotten this piece of wisdom
 

can100D

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btw, i hv also heard that all us army commanders hold a copy of Sun Tze?

LOL, use one's adversary's wisdom to fight one's adversary?

All these Hagues must hv gone crazy.:bsmilie::bsmilie::bsmilie:
 

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come to think of it, we should not hv always condemned China made products. Many of great inventions were made by the Chinese, eg gun powder, compass, seismic detector, astronomy to name just a few

We should instead blame the stupidity of those who give the contracts. They want cheap and green. Lowest quote. Cut cost. Sure bad quality lah.

Someone ever said [from the horse's mouth] "All good things come with a price". They seems to hv forgotten this piece of wisdom
No pride in their works.

They must change their mindset.

Quality means money!
 

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Discuss all you want.According to one expert regarding territorial and border disputes it's a sticky business.It took 15 yrs. before Vietnam and China talked about the Tonkin gulf.All parties made wrong
decisions like Asean pussyfooting/neutrality by it's non interference of member countries and not pushing enough until too little too late, (code of conduct).The US "notified" China of it's intention
to sail through south china sea to demonstate "freedom of navigation" which is tantamount to asking China for permissiom which leads china to think it owns the sea.After arbitration ruling in Philipines favour it now trying to put feelers out to negotiate with China to "share" resources of disputed "rocks" knowing it neither have the money nor expertise to exploit the seabed for oil and gas.The only happy party is the filipino fisherman but do they dare to venture back there when just recently report of chinese coastgaurd vessel personel slaping the face of vietnamese captain and sinking their boat after forcing them into the sea (anothe viet boat rescued them).Sounds like pirates of the caribean!

South china sea is the "persian gulf" in asia.Too many vested interests involved.75% of middle east oil imported by China pass through this sea route,reading Sun Tse's art of war is of little use when one knows of one's weaknesses.Modern warfare cost money and ultimately it's not who pays or suffers but the morality of it given the history of previous wars.Even US prsident Obama decision to intervene in Syria on moral grounds after President Assad used chemical weapons on it's own people
ended in stalemate and the people of Syria are still suffering.

China has put money and reclaimed 3000 acres of "land" and is not letting go that easily. Taking a leaf from history, when after the attack of Pearl harbour/Hawaii in WW2 the chief stategist admiral Yamamoto who studied and lived in the USA as a student commented and took cogniscence of US economic might and resolve by saying "We have awaken a giant." Admiral Yamamoto was killed when he visited troops on an island because US had broken the japanese communication codes telling of his visit and set an ambush.After the war his remains were brought back to Japan to be enshrined at Yakusuni shrine.
 

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It is always good to look back at history. Who are the aggressors and what they did. Of course, there is no denial that new aggressor may appear but the leopard will never change it's spots. Why would so many parties which no connection get so excited and want a pie in this? Don't they have better things to do?
 

can100D

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Discuss all you want.According to one expert regarding territorial and border disputes it's a sticky business.It took 15 yrs. before Vietnam and China talked about the Tonkin gulf.All parties made wrong
decisions like Asean pussyfooting/neutrality by it's non interference of member countries and not pushing enough until too little too late, (code of conduct).The US "notified" China of it's intention
to sail through south china sea to demonstate "freedom of navigation" which is tantamount to asking China for permissiom which leads china to think it owns the sea.After arbitration ruling in Philipines favour it now trying to put feelers out to negotiate with China to "share" resources of disputed "rocks" knowing it neither have the money nor expertise to exploit the seabed for oil and gas.The only happy party is the filipino fisherman but do they dare to venture back there when just recently report of chinese coastgaurd vessel personel slaping the face of vietnamese captain and sinking their boat after forcing them into the sea (anothe viet boat rescued them).Sounds like pirates of the caribean!

South china sea is the "persian gulf" in asia.Too many vested interests involved.75% of middle east oil imported by China pass through this sea route,reading Sun Tse's art of war is of little use when one knows of one's weaknesses.Modern warfare cost money and ultimately it's not who pays or suffers but the morality of it given the history of previous wars.Even US prsident Obama decision to intervene in Syria on moral grounds after President Assad used chemical weapons on it's own people
ended in stalemate and the people of Syria are still suffering.

China has put money and reclaimed 3000 acres of "land" and is not letting go that easily. Taking a leaf from history, when after the attack of Pearl harbour/Hawaii in WW2 the chief stategist admiral Yamamoto who studied and lived in the USA as a student commented and took cogniscence of US economic might and resolve by saying "We have awaken a giant." Admiral Yamamoto was killed when he visited troops on an island because US had broken the japanese communication codes telling of his visit and set an ambush.After the war his remains were brought back to Japan to be enshrined at Yakusuni shrine.

you blah a lot, but what are you trying to say???