Does a DSLR made a better Photographer?


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night86mare

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does a ferrari make a better driver?

does a parker pen make a better writer?

does a better computer make a better gamer?

does a better school make a better student?

does a better country make a better citizen?















not forgetting, does a golden toilet bowl mean that the person is going to produce gold inside? :bsmilie:
 

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Thanks for the fast reply... I heard from quite a number of ppl saying when using a DSLR u must shoot in the M mode or else must well use PNS.. It sadden mi tat ppl feel tat way. Tot the outcome of the photo more important than wat mode u are using..:cry:
 

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so a dSLR in any other mode than M is just an oversized PnS??
 

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true to a certain extent.

a DSLR is better in terms of technical specifications and with the correct technical skills applied, the tool can help you achieve what kind of photo you want with lesser limitations as compared to compact/prosumer.
examples: better noise control, image quality, manual features.

without good composition and creative mind or sometimes maybe the essential photo processing techniques, a photographer with compact/prosumer camera may outperform you.

just my opinion. :)
 

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I dont really understand about "Better quality" :embrass:

Taken by Fz30... So to say DSLR will have a better result than this?

 

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To a certain extent. Women wouldn't be spending tons to put on makeup if it made them look uglier after all... even if some people's tastes are kinda questionable. :bsmilie:
no, you don't get the point

it is how you use the makeup that matters

even if this is don't know what brand (have no idea what cosmetics brands are out there)



that costs $20000000000 a kg, you think this is a beautiful lady?
 

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Picture Quality of an SLR would be better, mainly in terms of sharpness and noise control.
In low / dim lighting, SLR will definately perform better then a P&S both in terms of focusing and PQ.
If using a low aperture lens, background bluring (bokeh effect) could be nicer.
A variety of lens and settings allows the photographer to choose the effect he wants.
 

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Thanks for the fast reply... I heard from quite a number of ppl saying when using a DSLR u must shoot in the M mode or else must well use PNS.. It sadden mi tat ppl feel tat way. Tot the outcome of the photo more important than wat mode u are using..:cry:
People who make statements like "dslr must shoot in M mode else better use P&S" are either ignorant or "not very happy" that others have DSLRs and they dont. The P, A, S and M modes are there as a tool for different photographic situations - to give the photographer more control over the output of the camera. Like the Pirelli advert .. POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT CONTROL. Whats the point of a 10 / 12 Mp camera if u lack control .. or worst .. the photographer have no idea how to control.

..;)
 

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Thanks for the fast reply... I heard from quite a number of ppl saying when using a DSLR u must shoot in the M mode or else must well use PNS.. It sadden mi tat ppl feel tat way. Tot the outcome of the photo more important than wat mode u are using..:cry:
no one said that you must use m mode, whoever told you that has no understanding of photography; it is not just the end result, nor the process, it is also the fun you get out of it

they should correct their statement to say that one should at least UNDERSTAND the concepts of the technicalities of photography when it comes to using a dslr to get the best out of it. how the light works, and how it flows onto your sensor to create the picture, combined with composition and appropriate post processing.

take for example, x. x has no inkling how iso, shutter speed and flash and aperture work. he hears from z, an evil salesman that dslrs are goign to make him a better photographer. he doesn't learn, he gets a d3, and he ends up getting really horrible shots that he doesn't like. the best part is that it is not the fault of the camera, it is his fault, so he posts online in clubsnap that he doesn't understand what is going on. when people try to explain to him, he ignores them and still makes lousy compositions, and claims that his post processing is the best in the world, and his photos are all beautiful. in this case, from a bystander's point of view, x is better off using a p&s.

on the other hand, y is moving on from p&s to dslr. he bothers to read up, and he achieves all sorts of things, he makes great firework shots that would have been a lot harder to do with a prosumer, he can take great sport photography due to shorter shutter lag, he gets to create beautiful landscape photographs due to a greater range of iso/aperture/shutter speed settings available to him, he can have the option creating low noise images in low light with the help of the flash, because he understands how the light flows.

now for y, dslr has effectively made him a "better photographer" by all broad standards. with a p&s, even with his understanding he might create some nice shots.. they might even win awards, and make people happy when they look at it. but with a dslr, he is like a tiger with wings.. the limits to what he can do, are expanded.
 

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I dont really understand about "Better quality" :embrass:

Taken by Fz30... So to say DSLR will have a better result than this?
firstly - blow up the picture, and compare it to a dslr

if it still looks the same; shoot the shot again at iso 800 on your fz30

and blow it up again

in fact, why not, just shoot at 1600 or if your camera has it, 3200, and you won't even need to blow it up :)

when you talk about "better image quality" you're talking about broad strokes, not particular shots where lighting conditions are good and you can use iso100/iso80 (low isos) where sensor noise on the smaller sensor of a prosumer is not an issue.
 

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i also want to add on, that i am a huge advocate of prosumers, having used them in the past - a prosumer's live view function, especially with the live histogram will give a newcomer a huge edge when it comes to dslr later on. i have also said time and time again that even p&s can produce good pictures, let alone prosumer.

but you see, when a photographer grows, some decide that they want to do more, try new things. this does not mean to say that those who choose to stay with p&s and prosumer are inferior, that is not true, a photographer is never ever judged by his camera, but by his photographs. there is a reason why the term is "photographer", not "cameraman". there is no right and wrong, so long as you feel comfortable with your prosumer, and do not feel limited by it, by all means, it is entirely possible based on the type of shots you like to take.. and stay with it and be content, and do not listen to the equipment whores who will tell you to upgrade.

if you think that there is something more you want to do, and what you have now cannot allow you to do it, like what some other members have mentioned above - even more shallow depth of field, low light handheld photography which require fast shutter speeds, the list goes on.. then by all means upgrade, particularly if you know how to maximise your utility from the dslr.
 

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Does the above statement is true? :dunno: Anyone..:rolleyes:

DSLR does not make a better photographer upfront. But if one usese it properly, with analysis, thinking and continue to make good use of the features and functionality, then the skills of one will improve over time.
 

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firstly - blow up the picture, and compare it to a dslr

if it still looks the same; shoot the shot again at iso 800 on your fz30

and blow it up again

in fact, why not, just shoot at 1600 or if your camera has it, 3200, and you won't even need to blow it up :)

when you talk about "better image quality" you're talking about broad strokes, not particular shots where lighting conditions are good and you can use iso100/iso80 (low isos) where sensor noise on the smaller sensor of a prosumer is not an issue.
Now that's speaking like a pro :bsmilie:
Anyone, I'm one of such users who had been using PnS and then SLR-Like (5700 Coolpix)
then upgraded to a DSLR one year ago. The differences is significantly vast when
you learn how to manage your "powertool" :)
 

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Better photographer - who is judging?

Most people have the perception that dslr = professional, but I'm guessing you're not falling into that same trap?

Well, my thoughts on how a dslr can improve one's photography skills is that with all the unknown functions on the camera, the average person like me is curious on how to take better pictures, hence all the reading up on how to master the controls, and also reading up on fundamentals of composition, lighting etc.

Some folks who are using p&s, spurred by their interest in photography, do the same stuff.

So at the end of the day, the camera doesn't necessary make you a better photographer, it is just a better tool for you to apply your skills with it.

My 2 cents ;)
 

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I dont really understand about "Better quality" :embrass:

Taken by Fz30... So to say DSLR will have a better result than this?
Sad to say.. Oversharpened, blown highlights, lost fur details, background too messy...

This one is taken by DSLR. Don't think you'll ever get this kind of shallow DoF with PnS.
 

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