hongsien said:
Hi,
I found post #1 and #2 only assumptions......post #3 is childish.....people here are abit sensitive I find. If you really found his last sentence too much, I think we have seen worse cases here. Come one aren't we mature people? Can't we take some attacks before stinging back? Give him some break..his post was deleted, without being warned, give him some understanding why he is pissed off. He likely didn't read the main posting guidelines......anyway, isn't kopitiam (if he placed his ad there) to be exactly that: talk about anything under the sun?..........if not then there should be a revision of the rules for the kopitiam thread.
From golgolex's post I can see that this is not the first time his ad has been deleted by a forum mod/admin because of violation of the website's terms of use. He should have read and understood our terms of use before he started using our forum. When his post was deleted he could have reviewed the terms of use or PM one of the moderator to ask for the reason, instead he chose to make a fuss in the feedback section over not given a reason for the deletion.
I agree with you that there is no need for other members to start attacking Golgolex here, and leave the matter to the mods and admins, but i also feel that your comments have to be fair to CS also.
The terms of use is the basic rules for CS that applies to all subforums, and it specifically stated that no commercial advertising is allowed without the consent of CS admininstration. I don't understand why you still think that there is a need to revise the Kopitiam guidelines. Isn't the terms of use clear and specific enough?
hongsien said:
Sometimes people here use a small wrong word, and its almost like hell breaks loose! As if they are personally attacked, people are just too sensitive......
I don't see how this statement applies here. golgolex's post here is a lot more than a "small wrong word". While I still agree that the posts by other members in this thread are largely unnecessary, you got to understand that his accusations of CS being impolite is contradictory of his own remarks against us.
hongsien said:
I encountered the same thing about an ad on a miniDV I wanted to sell, the moderator deleted my ad saying that it was against the rules, well I had to point out to him that it wasn't against the rules! Hmmmm....a moderator that doesn't even know the rules? Took along while to get a response.....I had to repeat my message before getting a response. Swift in deleting but slow in responding when in the fault?
While the definition of commercial ad can be very clear and specific, the defition of whether a piece of equipment can be considered directly related to photography can be grey some times. The mod/admin team's initial definition is that as long the PRIMARY function of a piece of equipment is directly related to photography, then members can place WTS/WTB ads. And by photography we are referring to still photography.
With that definition we realise that different people can still have different interpretations. Take the case for a MiniDV, one can argue that the PRIMARY function is not for still photography, but on the other hand, one can also argue that that is entirely up the to user whether he wants to use it to take more stills than video.
What I am trying to say here is that when we encounter such cases, usually the moderators admins will discuss about it to reach an agreement on the classification.
For your case then, the moderator initially had the same interpretation as I did, and thus your ad was removed. When you questioned him the matter was then brought up for discussion with the other mods and we agreed to allow video cam ads. Your accusations that the moderator does not know the rules and that we are fast to delete and slow to respond when in the fault is thus completely baseless.
hongsien said:
I am sure I will be attacked after this, but its ok, let your ego work abit.....
Hong Sien
I have seen this IF-YOU-ATTACK-ME-THEN-YOU-HAVE-EGO-PROBLEM defence tactic all too often.
