D800

[Entity]

Seems like Nikon is finally segregating the D3s and D800 lines.

Low light, high FPS junkies may make the switch to the D3s or stay with the D700. 36MP seems like overkill when the transfer rates of the current memory cards (barring the prohibitively-priced ones) cannot write fast enough to deliver the promised FPS...unless the D800 comes with an oversized buffer, or the camera is able to write to two cards at the same time? :dunno:

With that pixel density, can't imagine its ISO performance besting that of its predecessor. Maybe landscape photographers will favour it for being able to blow up gallery-sized prints, or habitual croppers can use the additional pixels to go nuts.

Hope after the field tests Nikon gives us a camera that is worth upgrading to, and not a specialist camera that only a few of us will rave about.

 

[alantkh]

I think it is just a FX version of the D7000 sensor.

The numbers fit exactly. The 16Meg DX will be 36Meg in FX. Quite ok what. I thought the D7000 sensor is really good. Good DR, good high ISO performance. With 36meg, I think the SNR will be much better.

 

[rasdeep]

I'd imagine 36mp on a D4x but definitely not on D800 or D4 range. The current trend of nikon line up has been the DwhateverX going for highest mp available targeted at pros with top $$$. Anyway, lets hope its just a rumour, I still crossing my finger the D800 has a D3s sensor

 

[Kit]

The more "pro" the equipment, the more it requires skill and thinking to operate it well. Is that good or bad - depends on what you see that equipment is for.

So what's the beef? You either learn how to operate the camera and get something you know how to use. Again it points back to the user.....

 

[rexyy]

300,000 yen..= s$5100..

 

[Tachyon]

300,000 yen..= s$5100..

Not too unreasonable if the specs are accurate. Considering it is less than 50% of the price of a D3x, I would say it is a bargain!

The only problem is affordability for the mass market, which I think the Dx00 series is targeted at?

 

[leafster]

More information..
http://nikonrumors.com/2011/10/05/more-nikon-d800-bits-and-pieces.aspx/

For the price, the dynamic range better be good at low iso.

 

[jeff7id]

300,000 yen..= s$5100..

Still cheaper than D3s

 

[Fezqu]

Unless nikon use sensor from others manufacturer. Maybe kodak? If not, rise and sink with Sony. Haha.

 

[Xiao_shin]

300,000 yen..= s$5100..

Street price will be lower. Finger crossed.

 

[yyD70S]

With a 36MP sensor, one's arsenal of lens better be up to it.

 

[alantkh]

With a 36MP sensor, one's arsenal of lens better be up to it.

actually the resolution is similar to that of the D7000.... no big deal... The cutting edge in pixel density I think is the Sony 24MP APS-C sensor.

 

[sjackal]

actually the resolution is similar to that of the D7000.... no big deal... The cutting edge in pixel density I think is the Sony 24MP APS-C sensor.

I think you don't understand what yyD70S meant.

D7000 is a cropped with 16MP, if rumors are true, then D800 is a full frame 35mm format with 36MP. Considering that, size by size the D800 still squeezed 12MP more. Some lenses might not be good enough to match such resolution.

 

[george671]

I think you don't understand what yyD70S meant.

D7000 is a cropped with 16MP, if rumors are true, then D800 is a full frame 35mm format with 36MP. Considering that, size by size the D800 still squeezed 12MP more. Some lenses might not be good enough to match such resolution.

So, do you have or know of some lenses that do not meet muster??? :dunno: I think its moot...I regularly use "vintage Nikon glass on my M4/3 bodies (12 MP) with no resolution problems....If you do the math, the FF sensor is about 3.85 X the size of the M4/3 sensor so 12 MP X 3.85 = 46, So you could at least go up to 46 MP with out any noticeable degradation.....

Cheers

 

[sjackal]

So, do you have or know of some lenses that do not meet muster??? :dunno: I think its moot...I regularly use "vintage Nikon glass on my M4/3 bodies (12 MP) with no resolution problems....If you do the math, the FF sensor is about 3.85 X the size of the M4/3 sensor so 12 MP X 3.85 = 46, So you could at least go up to 46 MP with out any noticeable degradation.....

Cheers

We will have the answers in due course.

 

[alantkh]

I think you don't understand what yyD70S meant.

D7000 is a cropped with 16MP, if rumors are true, then D800 is a full frame 35mm format with 36MP. Considering that, size by size the D800 still squeezed 12MP more. Some lenses might not be good enough to match such resolution.

??? your maths is wrong. how you get 12MP????

let me spell out simply to you.
D7000 is 1.5 crop factor DX. If you upsize the sensor to FX, its mp will be 16MP*1.5*1.5= 36MP. Understand? I think you forget to multiply 1.5 TWICE.... err... we are talking about area here.

There is no resolution jump between the D7000 and D800.

 

[george671]

Actually its 24 X36=836 ..... 15 X24=360 ........ 836/360=2.32222 ........... 2.32222x16=37.15 MP

Cheers

 

[george671]

Do you really think the guys at Nikon would be so stupid as to out design all of their lenses with a new camera body????:bsmilie:

 

[Cowseye]

Do you really think the guys at Nikon would be so stupid as to out design all of their lenses with a new camera body????:bsmilie:

At the very least, not their own lenses
I'm not very sure how good are the third party lenses going to perform..

 

[sjackal]

??? your maths is wrong. how you get 12MP????

let me spell out simply to you.
D7000 is 1.5 crop factor DX. If you upsize the sensor to FX, its mp will be 16MP*1.5*1.5= 36MP. Understand? I think you forget to multiply 1.5 TWICE.... err... we are talking about area here.

There is no resolution jump between the D7000 and D800.

Indeed, I did not multiply it twice. Thank you for the explanation and working the math.

Assuming a lens with certain amount of lens-resolution is distributed on D3/D700's 12MP sensor, now the same lens's resolution is distributed across the bigger D800's 36MP sensor, thus an underperforming lens; third parties maybe, or the old series slow zooms, etc, may not do as well. Thus the traditional valuing of lens over body, the film/sensor could be the same, but the lens matter. Understand?