D600 - EN-EL15 Aged?


lenslust

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Anybody's D600's battery aged already?

I just realised my packaged battery (3 months old, used twice), already is at age 1.

My wife's D600 battery still shows 0 (6 months old, multiple/tons of usage).

Wondering if NSC will replace the battery under this issue?
 

kelvinty

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Anybody's D600's battery aged already?

I just realised my packaged battery (3 months old, used twice), already is at age 1.

My wife's D600 battery still shows 0 (6 months old, multiple/tons of usage).

Wondering if NSC will replace the battery under this issue?
Look at the mfg date found on the back of the battery. Don't think Nikon will service.

Have 5 or 6 EN-EL15s went through quite a bit of abuse all of them still show 0. Only the very first one hit a 1, but that's after one year plus of usage.

Nikon had a recall advisory on EN-EL15s batteries. You might want to corroborate and see if yours is affected.
 

akuma

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Hi bro,
Not sure is it bec of the quality or the way we charge. I used to have a batt that came with my d800 which dropped to 1 after 5 mths usage. Whereas a second hand d7000 which I bought, ,most likely more than 2 yrs still have 0 on the meter :)
 

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Hi bro,
Not sure is it bec of the quality or the way we charge. I used to have a batt that came with my d800 which dropped to 1 after 5 mths usage. Whereas a second hand d7000 which I bought, ,most likely more than 2 yrs still have 0 on the meter :)
All my batteries are quite well used and some for a couple of years, all are still at 0. A couple of them are also EN-EL15. I think both D7000 and D800 uses the same batteries, so it is very possible these batteries are the ones being recalled.
 

lenslust

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Look at the mfg date found on the back of the battery. Don't think Nikon will service.

Have 5 or 6 EN-EL15s went through quite a bit of abuse all of them still show 0. Only the very first one hit a 1, but that's after one year plus of usage.

Nikon had a recall advisory on EN-EL15s batteries. You might want to corroborate and see if yours is affected.
It's not about the age that I'm worried, just experiencing it for the first time that it dropped to age 1 after just... 2 usages?

My EN-EL4s/4A took 7-8 years before it reaches replacement. Both my EN-EL18s are still at Age 0 after 1 year. Just the EN-EL15 first one to reach age 1 after just 3 months, I find it weird.



Hi bro,
Not sure is it bec of the quality or the way we charge. I used to have a batt that came with my d800 which dropped to 1 after 5 mths usage. Whereas a second hand d7000 which I bought, ,most likely more than 2 yrs still have 0 on the meter :)
I charge when it reaches 30 or 40 or whenever I need to ensure the battery needs to be full. It's not my first Nikon battery, but it's the first I see the age drop that fast.

If assuming EN-EL15 is 'consumer' type battery and it should last half the lifespan of those 'pro' type batteries, then probably this is acceptable?

I don't know, I used D100/EN-EL3 and D70 before, the EN-EL15's battery life/span is not as expected for me.



All my batteries are quite well used and some for a couple of years, all are still at 0. A couple of them are also EN-EL15. I think both D7000 and D800 uses the same batteries, so it is very possible these batteries are the ones being recalled.
Yes. D7000, D7100, D800 and D600 uses the EN-EL15.

I didn't check if mine needs to be recalled. I survive mostly on AAs (with batt grip) just using the EN-EL15 as backup (in-the-case-of-emergency). Went birding yesterday and decided to take the D600 instead of the D4 and got a rude shock when I check the battery life (habit of mine).

Think will have to go home and verify further.

Best is my wife can still laugh at me and say I got a lemon while she show me her D600's battery still at age 0....

Probably just my ego...
 

akuma

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All my batteries are quite well used and some for a couple of years, all are still at 0. A couple of them are also EN-EL15. I think both D7000 and D800 uses the same batteries, so it is very possible these batteries are the ones being recalled.
Boss,
the batt that came with that D800 was not affected by the recall. however, based on my useage, i felt there was no difference in performance in terms of the average number of shots

To all,
here is the article on the battery recall.
http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Service-.../EN-EL15-Battery-Recall-Service-Advisory.html
 

soeypixels

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FYI my D700 cam battery indication thingy doest really work
my battery always show 0
then the battery just die w/o any weird indication
note i actually change these batteries at nsc before

it can charged and showing blinking status on the charger
but doest power up the camera or my LED panel at all

kind of freak me out
i have to purchase addition 2 and now put more AAs in the tray for stand by
 

Miao

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FYI my D700 cam battery indication thingy doest really work
my battery always show 0
then the battery just die w/o any weird indication
note i actually change these batteries at nsc before

it can charged and showing blinking status on the charger
but doest power up the camera or my LED panel at all

kind of freak me out
i have to purchase addition 2 and now put more AAs in the tray for stand by
Fully agree .. using these lithium batt for years, all still level 0. The thing is, I found that many of them will suddendly lose power in a instant, even when it shows that it has 30% power remaining.
 

Blur Shadow

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My two EN-EL15 batteries that I use on my mainstay Nikon D7000 are still "0".

Nonetheless, I wouldn't be too concerned. As long as they can hold a reasonable charge, I certainly won't fret over it.

You can raise this issue to Nikon, although I think they may exchange your batteries solely for customer satisfaction purposes rather than an established policy.

Besides, a battery isn't all too expensive. If you're a professional who cannot take compromises, just get a new one. As long as the battery can last for a day, I don't think it would bother a hobbyist that much. Plus, your wife has the same camera, which can serve as an alternative camera for use.
 

kwanhan

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me has kenna one of my 3 d600 batteries aged to 1.

but personally as a hobbyist, nothing to complain about, might get another 1 to feel safe if I need to cover some sort of full day shoot
 

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I have bought 2 additional batteries since I discovered the original one that comes with the D600 drops it's "age" after only 12k SC. My image review is set to off and normally when I am shooting, I don't keep reviewing the images.

I am sad to report that, the other 2 new ones that are bought seperately, have also drop 1 notch in battery life. The latest one bears the serial number 201304xxxxx.

However like what many have mentioned, batteries are easily replaceable, so I am not too worried about it as of now. It's just weird that the same battery can have a longer "life" on the D7000......
 

kweechang

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I have 2 EN-EL15s for my Nikon 1 V1, bought in Jan 2013 (about 6 month). One of them drops to 1, while the other drops to 2.

Both my batteries are 2012xxxxKxxxxx, which do not belong the list stated in Service Advisory.

I suspect the problem is with the battery rather than the camera.

Let wait and see whether Nikon has another Service Advisory for the EN-EL15 battery.
 

lenslust

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FYI my D700 cam battery indication thingy doest really work
my battery always show 0
then the battery just die w/o any weird indication
note i actually change these batteries at nsc before

it can charged and showing blinking status on the charger
but doest power up the camera or my LED panel at all

kind of freak me out
i have to purchase addition 2 and now put more AAs in the tray for stand by
I've been using the D2X for past 7 years, and I do kind of trust the battery indicator (2/3 of my EN-EL4/As are at age 4), so I'm kinda puzzled that the camera shows the age of a twice used battery at age 1 at a period of 3 months?

My EN-EL18s for my D4s however are more used and more abused but still at life 0.

It can be charged, and charges still holds, I've been using the same EL-EL15 for the past 2 months now the shutter on the battery charge is about 1.5K @ 30%.

I have the AA tray for D600 as well as plenty of AAs, the EN-EL15 is more of a backup (in case) but still warrants a look into, though not critical.




Fully agree .. using these lithium batt for years, all still level 0. The thing is, I found that many of them will suddendly lose power in a instant, even when it shows that it has 30% power remaining.
That I seriously have not encountered with EL3, EL4/A, EL15 and EL18s.



My two EN-EL15 batteries that I use on my mainstay Nikon D7000 are still "0".

Nonetheless, I wouldn't be too concerned. As long as they can hold a reasonable charge, I certainly won't fret over it.

You can raise this issue to Nikon, although I think they may exchange your batteries solely for customer satisfaction purposes rather than an established policy.

Besides, a battery isn't all too expensive. If you're a professional who cannot take compromises, just get a new one. As long as the battery can last for a day, I don't think it would bother a hobbyist that much. Plus, your wife has the same camera, which can serve as an alternative camera for use.
I'm more interested in the root cause actually, than fretting over it. Last thing I want is the battery suddenly dies (before 1 year) or causes damage to the camera (though it's a back up but I still really like the D600).

Cost is not the issue here, I definitely have back-ups, but just curious on how it happened, or it was a old battery that was left on shelf, recalled and packaged in - thus it aged?

The last EN-EL4A I bought off shelf, in <1 year hit age 1 (after multiple uses), I'm not that worried since I know it can last, and probably it's an old copy that's been around for too long, so I left it be.

Just that this is a 3 months old, twice used, so, kind of worrying.
 

lenslust

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me has kenna one of my 3 d600 batteries aged to 1.

but personally as a hobbyist, nothing to complain about, might get another 1 to feel safe if I need to cover some sort of full day shoot
It's capable enough to last through more than a day, been there done that. Hobbyist or professional alike, we all take precautions, thus my intentions for starting this thread to garner more information. Will probably give NSC a call later to check it out.



I have bought 2 additional batteries since I discovered the original one that comes with the D600 drops it's "age" after only 12k SC. My image review is set to off and normally when I am shooting, I don't keep reviewing the images.

I am sad to report that, the other 2 new ones that are bought seperately, have also drop 1 notch in battery life. The latest one bears the serial number 201304xxxxx.

However like what many have mentioned, batteries are easily replaceable, so I am not too worried about it as of now. It's just weird that the same battery can have a longer "life" on the D7000......
Seems like the EN-EL15s have a rather short life-span if that's the case. I would have expected the batteries to last longer than just 2-3 years (given the rate the age happens). As mentioned, my EN-EL4s took more than 7 years to reach 'replacement', so I'm kind of surprised here.




I have 2 EN-EL15s for my Nikon 1 V1, bought in Jan 2013 (about 6 month). One of them drops to 1, while the other drops to 2.

Both my batteries are 2012xxxxKxxxxx, which do not belong the list stated in Service Advisory.

I suspect the problem is with the battery rather than the camera.

Let wait and see whether Nikon has another Service Advisory for the EN-EL15 battery.
Mine is also the 'K' series which I checked, 2013xx as well.

Think this warrants a call or visit to NSC. On the way bring in the D600s for shutter replacement and some of my lenses for servicing. Just realised my 70-200VR has tonnes of dinosaurs inside. Prolonged usage.
 

lenslust

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Called up NSC, described the issue.

They want me to bring down the battery for check. Kind of reluctant as I know of how this will all turn out (everything ok, no problem, within spec).

Probably will just take the chance to service the D600 as well and get a new shutter (est: 60K now)

Will update this once I get the opportunity to.
 

soeypixels

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mine d700 battery status always at 0 aka new
the battery die at 100,000 shutter count fyi

battery meter / pic meter works
but then your aged battery doestn show 100% immediately after u charge - for my case

every year the battery will deteriorate about 20%
btw i am talking about original battery :)
 

lenslust

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mine d700 battery status always at 0 aka new
the battery die at 100,000 shutter count fyi

battery meter / pic meter works
but then your aged battery doestn show 100% immediately after u charge - for my case

every year the battery will deteriorate about 20%
btw i am talking about original battery :)
I strictly do not use 3rd party batteries for my cameras. I cannot afford to do so. Strictly 100% Nikon Originals.
 

trd2970

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mine d700 battery status always at 0 aka new
the battery die at 100,000 shutter count fyi

battery meter / pic meter works
but then your aged battery doestn show 100% immediately after u charge - for my case

every year the battery will deteriorate about 20%
btw i am talking about original battery :)
Interesting. So it's a false sense of security. 100k for 1 battery? Or rotated among 2 batteries?
 

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My original v1 battery just died suddenly. Around 7mths 15k shots between 2 batteries.
Dreaded "This battery has reached the end of its working life and can no longer be used" message.
It was still showing 0, a few charge cycles ago.
Ironically the 3rd party one is still going strong.
 

Leykid1634

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I got additional EL15 when I brought V1, so both batteries starts with 201107xx.
Last year, I got myself D800, the EL15 series no is 201206XX. I uses D800 for about 9 months and the battery shows life of "1" already, whereas, the 2 from V1 still show "0".
The shutter count for D800 is 4670 whereas V1 is 12,050....
So! newer are more unreliable?!!
 

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