dawgbyte77 said:I think its more on sensationalizing and collective occurance. Same thing that 10 people dying in 1 accident seems worst than 10 separate accidents with 1 person died in each of them.
satay16 said:well, in this case, 1 child for 1 photograph.
yqt said:when a child cries for a commercial, film or print advertisement, the child and the parent knows what to expect. They go for the shoot/filming with their eyes open knowing that they have to cry for their money. It is a job which they are train to do and it is a commercial transaction.
In this case it is diff. In the words of the photographer, she said that she gave the child a lollypop and than take it away, make the parent leave the room ( making the child fearful of being left behind ), in order to make the child cry for the sole purpose of her personal fulfillment of shooting something "diff". She even have the cheek to try to justify her actions by saying that she's doing this to describe how she feels about the Bush's Administration: frustration, fear, and angry. Which, clearly states that this is a personal statement, a personal project. The key word here is "PERSONAL". And after this Personal project is complete, she sells the images for US4500.00 each. And when she get blasted for it, she first make a complain to try to get it to stop, failling which she proclaim that the reaction are a testament to the power of the/her still images.
And the parent who allow their childern to be subjected to this kind of treatment.......
I think they all should be arrested, hand over to some hooligans who hate ang-mo for a few days to give them a taste of their own medicine.
We're talking about a poor, helpless child here!!!
Pablo said:For those that agree with it and see nothing wrong, I have one question....
Would you do it ? to either your children or others for the sake of taking a photo.
Hey, if you would do this, post your nick so that I can add it to my ignore list.
Caspere said:I disagree. But I can accept your point of view.
i would too!dawgbyte77 said:Wow! You're taking it too personal. Yes I would.
akane said:
dawgbyte77 said:But combined together it becomes a series and therefore influence the viewer to how he should react.
Anyway, I also do not see anything wrong with it and crying doesn't mean terror. Taking the lollipop away is more indignation than fear. As my example above, some teachers and parents still believe in caning and corporal punishments on their kids. On the other hand, I know a lot of parents who pretend going away and leaving the kid to "strangers" like uncles or friends, and see how the child react. In this case, all the children are related to the photographer as friend or relative. For the personal and commercial aspect, since I do not believe she did something morally wrong, then gaining from it doesn't make it wrong as well. So depends on how a situation is focused, it can either be accepted as right or wrong. No such thing as universal truth so there will always be 2 camps in every situation.
Sjourn said:I think if it is a deliberate act to make a child cry, it's sick. If its spontaneous than its beautiful.
I don't blame the photog coz its a business for her and they have agreement with the parents, I blame the parents.
I am a parent, and I would'nt let anything like that done to my child. Imagine someone paying you to make your child cry and feel distress in the name of money. Imagine if you are the child.
If you call that art, I'll call that crap.
satay16 said:i dun know why there are pp that actually finds it nothing wrong with it, but i dun understand. at the end, nothing productive comes out from it. you dun create an art piece from pp to enjoy, you dun create a journalistic photograph that informs pp. all you created is just a terrorized child + controversy + sadistic enjoyment from paedophiles. all this rubbish about depicting the child to a bush administration just doesn't make sense, if it make sense for some reason. i believe taking naked children crying would help solving the poverty in africa? PURE RUBBISH!! ART SHOULD NOT BE CARRIED TO THE EXTENT OF EVEN CAUSING PHYSICAL AND PHYSCHOLOGICAL HARM TO PEOPLE!!!!! DUN SAY THAT THE CHILD ISN'T TERRORIZED!!!! PROBLEM WITH THE ARTICLE IS THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE CHILD SHOWN!!!! REMEMBER, HE TOOK MUCH MORE THAN ONE!!!!