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the underaged chinese gymnasts who won gold medal is not victim.
there are others who trained hard, started young but ended up win nothing..and then u only call them "victim".
if sportsman do not start training at young age..where do the success come from..?
Dun tell me import from china
also dun tell me Michael Phelps started swimming after he turn enough age..ie 18 and above.
all american swimmers also start their swimming young. why only underage chinese gymnasts are victim..?
So what you saying is a 4 yr old already know how to shape his or her own future and have begun making plans in the sport they want to excel in and train themselve towards becoming world champion? A four year old?
Do you know the criteria for sport selection or athelete programs in China or in the USA? There are vast differences if you google. In the States parents could send you at young age to learn the sport because you like to learn it or it is a family interest. Sure there are some persky parent who force their kids like some soccer moms. But few and far between. With China it CAN be a matter of survival. That fact that if it has to be seen in that manner does that not in some way indicate the lack of options? Almost a do or die option. I will grant you "victim" might be too strong a word to use. But it come pretty close when you think how much more options are given to the people to choose. I have not even gone into the area where some of these kids are deprave of choices and a period to just be "young kids" doing young kids things and not shoulder the adult burden of carrying out a countrie's propaganda. Would you subject your kids to that? Another country that use to do that and was a power house till it went broke and was divided up. Guess which country is that? USSR. And without those programs of selection...look at their medal tally now.
Did you read how Phelps got started? Was there options to his life? Was he forced into something he did not like? He came from a family where his dad was into sports. So he got into sport activities as in a family thing along with his sisters about swimming. It was only at age 11 as his interest grew and he watched other famous US swimmers winning that HE decided he want to be like those swimmers he admire. It's a boyhood dream that was nutured and supported by both parents, school and state. But it had to be his choice don't you think? .. well that was something he took charge, decided and was what he wanted to work towards. Without swimming he still have an education and an altenative future. Could we really say the same with those in China? They may have embrace capitalism but the communistic doctrine and control are still apparent in one form or another.
I would say I have NO problem with them using younger then 16 yrs old to compete. But I am also certain there are good reasons why the Olympic community or the sporting world decided against it now in recent years. Some of them are related to the well being and earlier developement of a child to more then just harvesting them for their sporting potential. How about other mental development and as I mentioned a time for children to just be children?
Do you play sport and not just casually? Because if you do then yo uwould know that above all...in ANY sports there are always rules set up as the parameter whether they be for fairness or just limits set for how the game IS to be played. Now we know how over time some sport ruling do change and once accepted it is adopted internationally. So even if you put that notion of being unfair to the kids aside... you still have to accept that not following the rules for that given sport is still a BAD and dishonest thing. There are many political reason why the enquiry was just that...a friendly enquiry. This is a giant of an economy we are talking about and every countries around the world wants a piece of that China pie or are fearful of them...would you dare to really launch an official investigation against them? Even if US who should have the most to gain by protesting and investigaing...do you think they would? Guess who owes China the most money of any given countries today?
So morale issue or not....does there seem to be some form of victimising here at play in one form or another. As I said..maybe "victim" is too strong a word and yes we should give them the benefit of a doubt but we should take note that there is always two sides to a coin. China has been caught more then a few times for athelets using steroids too....less we forgot about that. I actually, to be honest, suspected their so called star Hurdle runner to have done so too. If he took the steroid too close to the actual event and if any random testing took place after any heat, if found out , could not only be out of the race but will be shamed since there was a lot of media built about him to win the medal again.
The trick with steriod use is to hide it chemically or by laying off it for a period leading up so no trace is found. So it is a cat and mouse game with them finding new ways to hide the signs and official find new ways to detect them. If for some reason they found still traces in him and the gamble is too great he might get caught... best thing is to quit then to run the race by citing injury. I am only speculating lah :sweat: ...just random rant from an old fool on the side line... but after looking at what happen with Marion Jones and how long she managed to fool everyone for so long and even fought and won law suits from her detractors...anything is more then possible.
Sign...the way sports is heading nowadays. Sportmanship is extinct.
Not too long back, I read some where there was a comment that we should have two Olympics..the normal one and the steriod version heheheheh