as an amateur photographer, i shoot canon, leica R and leica M. 2 different makers, 3 lovely camera systems. beautiful images from all but under the lens hood, a world of difference .....
changing values
i love canon but the moment i buy a camera or lens( my first canon was a 5D ) the value drops 20 to 30 % . why? becos new models come out ever so often. my leica M6 ? can sell at a higher price now than when bought. my leica R 70-180 mm apo zoom? bought for $5k now going on ebay for $10k
image quality
now before u all scold me and say this idiot start only talk money, i must say that i love the canon images - bright, colourful. 5 D autofocus easy to shoot. bang bang bang bang like machine gun then later spend long time choose good images. lieca M ? i am like a sniper - quiet . zone focus . shoot from the hip. in prohibited places also naughty naughty shoot ( eg perth mint where photos are banned!) image quality - life like colours . contrast and clarity ? unbeatable. different shooting style. leica R? the superb colour, contrast and quality from german glass. ,y apo 28 to 90 zoom and the 19 mm are my favourites. both f 2.8
construction
sadly my canon ef len or even theL lenses ok to use but lack the silky smoothness of the leicas. after a while the ef lens get loose and even the so called L lenses . my M and R lenses feel even smoother todsay then when i got them 20 years ago. the more u use the better they get
cult following
the funny thing about leica is the recognition u get when using one. we all have this small thing in us called ' ego' and sometimes nice for little ego to be fed. on more than one occasion i hear someone say ": hey he's using a leica!" when i shoot on a move or i would just hook up with a random stranger in a different country with the same M cam hanging round his neck, chat n talk photography.or walk into a leica shop with a M or R and u get some degree of service. membership has its privileges. i see someone with a beat up M on the move i know he knows photography. no need to say more.
and now me ... the consumer.!!
so leica holds or even appreciates in value. rarity of R lenses now out of production. a crazy cult following. recognition . my 5D takes super images. easy to use . autofocus. easy to sell too but lose money like crazy. fporget about professional reviews and pix analysis. put 2 shots side by side and from the quality i can tell u which was taken by my 5D mk 2 and which with my leica. canon nice but i prefer leica colours.
not to mention the bokeh ohhhhh the bokeh !! just got the noctilux f 0.95 coupled to my M - gosh love shooting wide open . amazing photos. my canon sadly opens only to f 2.8. for me, general use i use canon- play play. need good pix, i use my leicas. or if want to churi churi shoot at concerts. noctilux . cos for me i dont photoshop. too lazy .. zzzzz.
should we buy canon, use , sell, and lose money or buy leica- use, enjoy, keep, later sell maybe even make money? u economists or financial advisers out there know better. me just amateur photographer. then u all will say again this joker start thread talk money end thread also talk money . aiya sorrl la just my thoughts
changing values
i love canon but the moment i buy a camera or lens( my first canon was a 5D ) the value drops 20 to 30 % . why? becos new models come out ever so often. my leica M6 ? can sell at a higher price now than when bought. my leica R 70-180 mm apo zoom? bought for $5k now going on ebay for $10k
image quality
now before u all scold me and say this idiot start only talk money, i must say that i love the canon images - bright, colourful. 5 D autofocus easy to shoot. bang bang bang bang like machine gun then later spend long time choose good images. lieca M ? i am like a sniper - quiet . zone focus . shoot from the hip. in prohibited places also naughty naughty shoot ( eg perth mint where photos are banned!) image quality - life like colours . contrast and clarity ? unbeatable. different shooting style. leica R? the superb colour, contrast and quality from german glass. ,y apo 28 to 90 zoom and the 19 mm are my favourites. both f 2.8
construction
sadly my canon ef len or even theL lenses ok to use but lack the silky smoothness of the leicas. after a while the ef lens get loose and even the so called L lenses . my M and R lenses feel even smoother todsay then when i got them 20 years ago. the more u use the better they get
cult following
the funny thing about leica is the recognition u get when using one. we all have this small thing in us called ' ego' and sometimes nice for little ego to be fed. on more than one occasion i hear someone say ": hey he's using a leica!" when i shoot on a move or i would just hook up with a random stranger in a different country with the same M cam hanging round his neck, chat n talk photography.or walk into a leica shop with a M or R and u get some degree of service. membership has its privileges. i see someone with a beat up M on the move i know he knows photography. no need to say more.
and now me ... the consumer.!!
so leica holds or even appreciates in value. rarity of R lenses now out of production. a crazy cult following. recognition . my 5D takes super images. easy to use . autofocus. easy to sell too but lose money like crazy. fporget about professional reviews and pix analysis. put 2 shots side by side and from the quality i can tell u which was taken by my 5D mk 2 and which with my leica. canon nice but i prefer leica colours.
not to mention the bokeh ohhhhh the bokeh !! just got the noctilux f 0.95 coupled to my M - gosh love shooting wide open . amazing photos. my canon sadly opens only to f 2.8. for me, general use i use canon- play play. need good pix, i use my leicas. or if want to churi churi shoot at concerts. noctilux . cos for me i dont photoshop. too lazy .. zzzzz.
should we buy canon, use , sell, and lose money or buy leica- use, enjoy, keep, later sell maybe even make money? u economists or financial advisers out there know better. me just amateur photographer. then u all will say again this joker start thread talk money end thread also talk money . aiya sorrl la just my thoughts