espn said:Once the card has been written with new data, it's impossible to retrieve the data that resides in the area where the new data now lies, old data however is still possible to retrieve.
espn said:Nope, once the data is refilled up in the card, the data is lost permanently.
boroangel said:So lets say I take a pic of a confidential company file....then all I have to do is to delete all.....take random pics to fill up the whole XD card....then delete them away and theres no chance anyone can try to retrieve the pic of that document from the cards using some equipment?
solarii said:To be safe you should use what is known as "file shredder" software that overwrites the file many times to ensure nothing is recoverable. Filling up the card with random files and deleting them can be risky...though theoretically the old file should be overwritten there's a slim chance it may still be recovered with certain "high end" software.
By the way you're into industrial espionage issit? Taking pictures of confidential files like those guys in Alias? Tsk tsk.
boroangel said:Hi thanks for your info...may I know where to get this 'file shredder' software? It wont damage the card right, as in it will still be usable?
solarii said:You can try cyberscrub though there are others available.
http://www.cyberscrub.info/file-shredder/
No it won't damage the card. Else what's the point? Generally they're pretty good according to a colleague who works at data forensics.
boroangel said:Got it thanks!
sammy888 said:You should try to find out more about this product first. I read the info at the site and there was no mention about using it with SD memory modules or in any manner that closely represent erasing data from memory modules like CF, SD, Magixstick..etc.
It mentioned HDD, FAT32, FAT16, NTFS, Floppy, ZIP disc, JAZ Drive..etc. The way memory modules like SD or CF works is abit difference to a HDD for example. Whether it might damage the module is not known. I hate to be a wet blanket here but best to err on the side of caution I think. But so far all the stuff it can safely erase concern a certain type of disc related storage system.
In fact I don' t see why writing over the SD entire memory module by shooting picture over it and then re shoot another set again and then end by formating it. That should totally erase all data on the module. I am not 100% certain with SD but with CF I know if you write over existing data, what was once there is no longer there at all. If at any one time you can go back one level to retrieve that old picture file or whatever...instead of calling it for example a 512mb memory module, they might as well call it a 1gig memory module. heheh. The CF in any case work on a switcher type memory like a kind of switcher that works in "on and off" an electrical charge changes it and when the electricity is switched off, it just stays in that possible till it next gets another charge to change its "off and on" position. That is why it has like a limited life span due to this physical switching. I am not sure if SD is the same technology but at a more micro level but if it is..it should not be that hard to erase previously recorded stuff and over write it with something else. heheh Most retrieval software that help you get back data are for use on damage storage devices. Meaning...data recorded on it prior to the storage device crashing. And nothing was written over it ever since. Files that you deleted and that part of the storage area has not been over written by any new data will 100% be retrieved back by undeleting them. I have done data retrieval on some of my bad HDD before but usually, what has been over written will be lost. For a data retrieval program to work it need to logicall find some bits here and there to piece together the info and extract the data. If too many parts are missing, all you get are rubbish that will not produce a complete file and thus can not read at all.
So secret agent stuff all this heheh. What you shoot har boroangel? heh..Not some naughty pictures or something secretive you should not have taken while during your holiday trip hahahahah..... If that "secret secret" it might be worth totally destroying that memory module heheheh.
The 1st sentence of your 3rd paragraph doesn't make sense.
You're right in saying that once a file is overwritten MANY times it cannot be retrieved. But you need to understand how file systems work. In an ideal world, data will fill up in your storage device like water in a bottle. However in reality it is hardly the case. Filling up your memory with random files does not mean that every byte will be used up. There are bound to be gaps where parts of coherent data still reside. While incomplete, it may still be used to piece together the original file. Furthermore, unless you overwrite an area several times there are still ways to retrieve data.
And its not secret agent stuff, but common practice by many organisations to destroy data storage devices containing classified data even if the unit is brand new. However it is uncommon to possess pictures of confidential files. People with legitimate access will have the document files and not resort to physically photographing stuff.
boroangel said:Just a question....let say I have an XD memory card and I have deleted the pics inside or have overwritten it with other pics...is it possible to retrieve those pics that were deleted or overwritten using other means?