Can cure most viral, even cancer diseases?


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Wisdomworld said:
Read this two highly recommended books.;)

The Next Millionaires by Paul Zane Pilzer
Paul Zane Pilzer portfolio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Zane_Pilzer


The Business School for People Who Like Helping People by Robert T. Kiyosaki
Robert T. Kiyosaki portfolio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kiyosaki
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Very good but only one problem, the two gentlemen are rich by the sale of their books and motivational material which is what I said earlier about buying motivational material or being distributor no 1, product no 2. They didnt become rich because they are MLM distributors.

End of the day, no one has been rich because of the products working well. The top tier ones are earning big bucks by promising their downlines that they will make big bucks if they find more and more friends and etc to be distributors. Also by giving so called "complusary" talks and seminars which are chargable. End of the day the top tier laugh their way to the bank and the rest work to make the top tier rich.

End of the day, MLM appeals to the basic human instinct of greed and laziness. Promising one instant monetary gains with no need for capital nor hardwork, no wonder so many gullible people fall victim to it.
 

Well, at the end of the day it is your attitude and your focus that's matters. If you always focus at the negative side of life, life will be really negative because you feed your subconscious mind with "bad food".

But if you are willing to open your heart and mind... take an effort to do some read up, things might change. ;)




centuryegg said:
Very good but only one problem, the two gentlemen are rich by the sale of their books and motivational material which is what I said earlier about buying motivational material or being distributor no 1, product no 2. They didnt become rich because they are MLM distributors.

End of the day, no one has been rich because of the products working well. The top tier ones are earning big bucks by promising their downlines that they will make big bucks if they find more and more friends and etc to be distributors. Also by giving so called "complusary" talks and seminars which are chargable. End of the day the top tier laugh their way to the bank and the rest work to make the top tier rich.

End of the day, MLM appeals to the basic human instinct of greed and laziness. Promising one instant monetary gains with no need for capital nor hardwork, no wonder so many gullible people fall victim to it.
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Wisdomworld said:
Well, at the end of the day it is your attitude and your focus that's matters. If you always focus at the negative side of life, life will be really negative because you feed your subconscious mind with 'bad food'.

But if you are willing to open your heart and mind... take an effort to do some read up, things might change. ;)
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Dude, I read up on your facts... and they contradict what you are trying to say which is MLM is good. Also I have read up on MLM before even coming across this discussion and seen people in Singapore and Malaysia turned from rational sensible people to fanatical MLM followers. End of the day they earn nothing but the top tier earn like mad.

It is like religion, the pastors and all.. earn big bucks by talking and giving promises of glory and riches but first all must give something first, give something to the top tier in form of attending motivational talks etc.

it is not about having an open mind. It is about discerning what is correct and what is a delusion....
 

hmmm about MLM, for me personally, I don't say it's good or bad, but just don't have time to get involve. But if product is good, I don't mind to buy it. Just depend on the invidual I guess. The negative thing of MLM sometimes they pushing too much or too hard.
Read about this http://www.falseprofits.com/IsMLMLegal.html
 

When you care about your loved ones, you will grasp at anything that might help.

This I can understand and will not suggest you do otherwise.

If it will not break your bank, and it will not take money away from regular treatment, then....

hey, give it a go.

Don't build up your hopes, just try it and see what happens.

If it works... tell everybody and hope they will benefit from it. Shout about it !!!

If it does not work, at least you tried and you cared enough to try.


Best wishes :)
 

armadillo said:
Hi everyone,

Ever heard of this device?
Seem very interesting concept
Because my daughter have skin allergic and sinus problem, not sure if this device can really help

Benefits of PYRO-ENERGEN Usage
Eliminates all viral diseases including respiratory diseases caused by allergies.
Daily use will improve your blood's alkalinity; because an acidic blood makes you sick and weak.
The use of PYRO-ENERGEN is not only intended for ill persons. Healthy children and adults are also recommended to use this electrotherapy device to safeguard and maintain good health.

For more detail can read at http://www.pyroenergen.com/whybuy.htm

Please share if you have any experience, the testimonial sound very good
I hope this is not a scam
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Too bad I only saw this thread today while I was at work in the hospital.
All I can say is one word -- BOGUS!

Lets analyze the claims.

1. Eliminates all viral diseases including respiratory diseases caused by allergies. :bigeyes:

Helloooooooo?! To date, even with the advancement of medicine up to the point of being able to create another human being (i.e. cloning), there is still no cure-all medicine. Simply because each disease is caused by a different entity mostly bacteria, viruses or defect in metabolism.
Most of common Viral illness in particular are self-limiting. This means even without treatment, your body's natural defense (immune system) will take care of it.

2. Daily use will improve your blood's alkalinity; because an acidic blood makes you sick and weak. (It even claims no one can dispute this statement is wrong) :eek:

TOTALLY WRONG. The normal activities of our cells need a neutral or balanced environment or medium. This means a shift towards acidosis or alkalosis is detrimental to normal function.
That is why some dermatologic products such as shampoos or lotions usually put "pH-balanced" (pH - measure of alkalinity or acidity) in their labels.

3. It also has a statement that viruses are a result of a defect in some electrical blahblah. :hung:

TOTALLY WRONG AGAIN. Viruses are one of the smallest living things. Like us they have the capability to multiply but they need hosts like us to do so. A virus can only come from a virus and no where else.

In short, products such as these usually ride on "theories not unexplained by science" -- from x-files. But this can easily be proved wrong when measurable scienctific method is applied to them.

WORDS TO THE WISE. If it's too good to be true - it's usually not. :nono: Moreover if it involves your health or your loved one's, always rely on your Doctor. :angel:
 

Things to learn for the day: Pareto principle 80-20 rule

Fact: 5% (Super rich), 15% (Rich), 80% (Average and below)

Same principle applies in everythings, be it traditional business, MLM, working class, world politics.;)

Long long ago we have this sayings:
1) People who make things happen
2) People who see things happen
3) And of course, people who don't know what happen. :bsmilie:

Conclusion is your ATTITUDE matter!


centuryegg said:
Dude, I read up on your facts... and they contradict what you are trying to say which is MLM is good. Also I have read up on MLM before even coming across this discussion and seen people in Singapore and Malaysia turned from rational sensible people to fanatical MLM followers. End of the day they earn nothing but the top tier earn like mad.

It is like religion, the pastors and all.. earn big bucks by talking and giving promises of glory and riches but first all must give something first, give something to the top tier in form of attending motivational talks etc.

it is not about having an open mind. It is about discerning what is correct and what is a delusion....
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docdeng said:
Too bad I only saw this thread today while I was at work in the hospital.
All I can say is one word -- BOGUS!

Lets analyze the claims.

1. Eliminates all viral diseases including respiratory diseases caused by allergies. :bigeyes:

Helloooooooo?! To date, even with the advancement of medicine up to the point of being able to create another human being (i.e. cloning), there is still no cure-all medicine. Simply because each disease is caused by a different entity mostly bacteria, viruses or defect in metabolism.
Most of common Viral illness in particular are self-limiting. This means even without treatment, your body's natural defense (immune system) will take care of it.

2. Daily use will improve your blood's alkalinity; because an acidic blood makes you sick and weak. (It even claims no one can dispute this statement is wrong) :eek:

TOTALLY WRONG. The normal activities of our cells need a neutral or balanced environment or medium. This means a shift towards acidosis or alkalosis is detrimental to normal function.
That is why some dermatologic products such as shampoos or lotions usually put "pH-balanced" (pH - measure of alkalinity or acidity) in their labels.

3. It also has a statement that viruses are a result of a defect in some electrical blahblah. :hung:

TOTALLY WRONG AGAIN. Viruses are one of the smallest living things. Like us they have the capability to multiply but they need hosts like us to do so. A virus can only come from a virus and no where else.

In short, products such as these usually ride on "theories not unexplained by science" -- from x-files. But this can easily be proved wrong when measurable scienctific method is applied to them.

WORDS TO THE WISE. If it's too good to be true - it's usually not. :nono: Moreover if it involves your health or your loved one's, always rely on your Doctor. :angel:
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Thanks Docdeng for your input.
Agree with u, what puzzle me also if the device is so good and already around for 40 years, why never really use by hospital?
That is why I post to this forum before I made my decision, hope someone maybe know this device or someone can confirm it's a scam/bogus.
 

Pablo said:
When you care about your loved ones, you will grasp at anything that might help.

This I can understand and will not suggest you do otherwise.

If it will not break your bank, and it will not take money away from regular treatment, then....

hey, give it a go.

Don't build up your hopes, just try it and see what happens.

If it works... tell everybody and hope they will benefit from it. Shout about it !!!

If it does not work, at least you tried and you cared enough to try.


Best wishes :)
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Hi Pablo, thanks for your advised :)
Yeah, agree, in term of the price to pay US$900, seem very cheap if the device really work :sweat:
But if not, then rather waste. Anyway, will wait and see, who knows someone in the forum ever try this device :angel:
 

Octane69 said:
OK... I got the info from my sis... This apparently is also used in her office in TDB... they good life hor... anyway.. the link is here...

Mavello

Good luck in ur quest...
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Hi Octane69, many thanks for the info.
They hv showroom at Intl Plaza, near to my office, will dropby and see :)
 

Anybody knows what's the difference between this and other 'water' brands like Japin, Diamond, Amway,etc.. Have different friends and relatives using the J, D, and A products and they all say that theirs good.

I wonder if they are really worth buying, ie value for money. The prices range usu between S$1200 - 1900. Not cheap.
 

armadillo said:
Hi Octane69, many thanks for the info.
They hv showroom at Intl Plaza, near to my office, will dropby and see :)
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Dear Armadillo,

This is another scam device. It again claims to cure all things. Riding again on changing acidic blood to alkaline blahblah. :what:

The body has its own mechanism to maintain equilibrium or balance. Alakalinity in the blood is definitely NOT also beneficial since our cells cannot function in this environment. Diseases like allergy are not caused by simple alterations in blood pH (acidosis or alkalosis). If you're sick, it does not mean your blood turns acidic or alkaline. There are also many causes of allergies.

I know you love your child very much. So I think the best option is to seek a doctor specialist in allergy (ALLERGOLOGIST). They will do some test and find what are the stuff your child is allergic to.

Things like these always put testaments by certain persons about effectivity. BUT they never say what are the SIDE EFFECTS. "Just try and see how" principle is NO NO.

I seem to be very adamant on this matter because we have seen a lot of patients who are now having complications from traditional medicines they have taken.


Again, rather than wasting money on these devices please just use it to consult a specialist.
The final decision lies on you. :think:

Regards,
docdeng
 

Total scam!

Did you read the part when they describe what the founder discovered....
http://www.pyroenergen.com/fifth-dimension.htm

1) Paranormal Waves causes diseases!?!?!?!

2) Paranormal Waves comes from the 5th Dimension.....

3) ALL YOU BASES ARE BELONG TO US>>>> (ok, i made that up)

Gee... its like reading a script for an episode of Twilight Zone!!:bsmilie:
 

docdeng said:
Dear Armadillo,

This is another scam device. It again claims to cure all things. Riding again on changing acidic blood to alkaline blahblah. :what:

The body has its own mechanism to maintain equilibrium or balance. Alakalinity in the blood is definitely NOT also beneficial since our cells cannot function in this environment. Diseases like allergy are not caused by simple alterations in blood pH (acidosis or alkalosis). If you're sick, it does not mean your blood turns acidic or alkaline. There are also many causes of allergies.

I know you love your child very much. So I think the best option is to seek a doctor specialist in allergy (ALLERGOLOGIST). They will do some test and find what are the stuff your child is allergic to.

Things like these always put testaments by certain persons about effectivity. BUT they never say what are the SIDE EFFECTS. "Just try and see how" principle is NO NO.

I seem to be very adamant on this matter because we have seen a lot of patients who are now having complications from traditional medicines they have taken.


Again, rather than wasting money on these devices please just use it to consult a specialist.
The final decision lies on you. :think:

Regards,
docdeng
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Docdeng, in reply to your post above, its not that i endorse nor is it that i am even promoting this device or anyother, i have seen my sister suffer from her allegies and whatsoever for the longest time. And somehow it really helped her. Anyway, at the end of the day, whatever works for whatever reason it works is good enough for me. I believe the skin allergies are still a very broad topic that the medical world has no explaniation for alot of?
 

Zplus said:
Total scam!

Did you read the part when they describe what the founder discovered....
http://www.pyroenergen.com/fifth-dimension.htm

1) Paranormal Waves causes diseases!?!?!?!

2) Paranormal Waves comes from the 5th Dimension.....

3) ALL YOU BASES ARE BELONG TO US>>>> (ok, i made that up)

Gee... its like reading a script for an episode of Twilight Zone!!:bsmilie:
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5th dimension? The dimension of Stupidity?
 

Wisdomworld said:
What's wrong with MLM???... people make 10x, 20x even 30x what a normal manager pay. Read more business books and understand the business model before make this statement. :sticktong
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And woe be me, the whole damned world will be rich making money outta everyone else by following MLM style business model. :bsmilie:

Lets face it, at the end of the day, u'll have to get ur hands dirty by getting down to work. Models, theories, diagrams and charts are all but crapshit if u do not make an effort and sweat for ur own moola.
 

haha, assuming you can see things as small as planck's length.
 

Wisdomworld said:
Read this two highly recommended books.;)

The Next Millionaires by Paul Zane Pilzer
Paul Zane Pilzer portfolio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Zane_Pilzer


The Business School for People Who Like Helping People by Robert T. Kiyosaki
Robert T. Kiyosaki portfolio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kiyosaki
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The only people that are luffin' their way to the banks are ur 2 beloved authors.

So, how many millions had u made (or still hoping for dat 1st million) after taking ur guru into study? :bsmilie:
 

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