Calcium Carbide plus Water


Yappy

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... Calcium carbide plus water....

What do you get????????
 

Zenten

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............ with NEWater ....new fart .................... :bsmilie:
 

Yappy

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I think that what happened at Tien Jin.

Firemen pour water onto the chemical. Fire plus acetylene....
 

Nikonzen

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Mother of all blow torches.

What is all this about cyanide I am hearing about?
 

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There might be a possibility it may turn into similar as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster

The chemical can enter the water system and cause much worse affects for years to come in the future.. As the explosion may have spewed isocyanate which is super toxic..
 

Yappy

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Are you inspired by something happened near 四面佛?

Please note that internal security department may be following your posts.

:)
Thank you for the note.

It is an alert to the authority that our firemen must know the place well/factories so that incident of such can be prevented.

.. what say you?
 

Yappy

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Mother of all blow torches.

What is all this about cyanide I am hearing about?
It is Sodium Cyanide(all sodium salt is soluble in water) plus water plus soil...

Detected 350 times more than normal at Tianjin as reported today by ST.
 

Yappy

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The question is can we fight fire with water when a large amount of Calcium Carbide is presence?
 

donut88

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The question is can we fight fire with water when a large amount of Calcium Carbide is presence?
In the case of tianjin, no one actually knew the chemical compounds in the fire, because they were stored illegally and forged safety certificates given by authority.

So the poor firemen never knew what they are going in for.......

This is China for all of us to know. Rich powerful but gets no respect from the world
 

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if you are old enough, you will know in the early days that Calcium Carbide is use to make 臭土灯, the street hawkers use as their light source for their stalls.

 

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The question is can we fight fire with water when a large amount of Calcium Carbide is presence?
The question should be answered by a specialist firefighter team based on proper documentation about which other substances are stored there.
Poor guys who went unprepared into a chemical storage facility, only equipped with water...
 

Yappy

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if you are old enough, you will know in the early days that Calcium Carbide is use to make 臭土灯, the street hawkers use as their light source for their stalls.

Yes. It was a source of light in the early days.
 

huatman

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Thank you for the note.

It is an alert to the authority that our firemen must know the place well/factories so that incident of such can be prevented.

.. what say you?
Firefighter won't able be know all places and what stored in building (legal or illegal) beforehand.
Factories/workshops/warehouses etc here are supposed to keep a updated copy of Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) or Safety Data Sheet (SDS) which can be folder which contain data sheet of all chemicals and dangerous substance stored (think it safety regulations in Singapore). In case fire, that's one of documents that suppose to bring out so Firefighter knows what is stored inside.

Normally have more than 1 copy, near the storages area, and eg in office (so staffs can bring out during emergency).
And at the guard post (likely with floor plan too).
 

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Octarine

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In other countries such storage facilities and chemical factories have their own dedicated firefighters. They know exactly what can be done if things go wrong.
 

Yappy

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In the case of tianjin, no one actually knew the chemical compounds in the fire, because they were stored illegally and forged safety certificates given by authority.

So the poor firemen never knew what they are going in for.......

This is China for all of us to know. Rich powerful but gets no respect from the world
Poor firemen. Just tried their best . Somebody must take the rep. China never learn.
 

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What else could they have used to extinguish a fire of this magnitude? .......................... Lemonade? :bsmilie:
 

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China will someday get past all the quality control and shoddiness that is in their industries today but even then accidents and the such will still happen. It is only a matter of time to get a few generations under the belt to get rid of that country bumpkin edge they have now. I say this because looking at an early powerhouse America you had the same kind of huge industrial accidents like this explosion. We have evolved into just poisoning giant swaths of land/water like the Gulf of Mexico and the river that is currently full of old gold mining chemicals toxic as all get out. The Budweiser beer bottle plant in my town routinely ejects crap out their stacks that settles back down to the ground as white ash and man you ought to smell that stuff....gross. I would LOL if it was funny.
 

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