Bright Daylight or late evening around 5 - 6pm


fatBozZ

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Hi guys
i am a long exposure fan ...
Just wondering do you guys do long ex mostly in bright daylight ( 1 - 4pm )
or evening ( 5 - 6pm ) ??? :think:

And from your opinion which situation is harder to meter ...:dunno:
 

wildcat

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To me, there is no such thing as harder to meter. You can meter very harsh light (1pm-4pm) properly and picture come out properly exposed but just that it may not look good because... well, the light is just bland and unexciting.

If you are trying to smoothen water, 1-2mins should be more than sufficient. If not then try 3-4mins. It all depends on the situation. Clouds are harder because it depends on wind conditions and what you're trying to achieve.
 

fatBozZ

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To me, there is no such thing as harder to meter. You can meter very harsh light (1pm-4pm) properly and picture come out properly exposed but just that it may not look good because... well, the light is just bland and unexciting.

If you are trying to smoothen water, 1-2mins should be more than sufficient. If not then try 3-4mins. It all depends on the situation. Clouds are harder because it depends on wind conditions and what you're trying to achieve.
Smoothen water can be achieved even with very harsh light ?
because when i try to meter on 1 - 2pm with 10 stops
my camera sometimes dun allow me to even have a 1 sec exposure time :confused:
 

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if you are looking to do long exposure in bright day light.
most of the time event set at lowest iso and a very small aperture will render you unable to use >1sec exposure before u blow up all the image.
a ND filter will help in this case.
 

wildcat

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Smoothen water can be achieved even with very harsh light ?
because when i try to meter on 1 - 2pm with 10 stops
my camera sometimes dun allow me to even have a 1 sec exposure time :confused:
At that timing, I normally stack a 10 stop + 3 stop plus close the aperture a bit more; you should be able to get your exposure ;)

You may be able to get better results than me because my D5000 has base ISO of 200 and max shutter speed of 1/4000 only.

Of course, now that I have a 6 stop ND filter also... :p
 

wildcat

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... and max shutter speed of 1/4000 only.
Actually I'm not sure why I mentioned max shutter speed here since it's not relevent :bsmilie:

I guess the point is, if a shot I take without filter is at 1/4000sec, then with a ND110, it is going to be 1/4secs. Even if I stack another 3 stop filter on it, it's only going to be 2sec. So... either you stack more stops, or change the aperture settings, or something, to make it work. I think you get my point.
 

fatBozZ

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Actually I'm not sure why I mentioned max shutter speed here since it's not relevent :bsmilie:

I guess the point is, if a shot I take without filter is at 1/4000sec, then with a ND110, it is going to be 1/4secs. Even if I stack another 3 stop filter on it, it's only going to be 2sec. So... either you stack more stops, or change the aperture settings, or something, to make it work. I think you get my point.
I got it ... the magic word is " Stack "

:thumbsup:

But normally do u meter the brightest cloud ?
 

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wildcat

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You may have better luck with other people on how to do proper metering, as my metering (and I think my computer screen) is a bit kooky, and I more often than not, end up with underexposed pictures (with or without ND, but it has become more of a personal preference).

But generally I will leave meter however I want it, then if I want a high key photo, I will leave it to expose a bit longer, or a low key photo, then not as much as exact calculations. That's the part where guesstimations will come in.

I'm also not a fan of stacking but like you said, if you need to take a photo at that bright uninteresting daylight 1-4pm, then you don't have much of a choice. Frankly, a single ND will more than suffice for sunrise and sunsets.
 

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Smoothen water can be achieved even with very harsh light ?
because when i try to meter on 1 - 2pm with 10 stops
my camera sometimes dun allow me to even have a 1 sec exposure time :confused:
Yes u can in case of very harsh lights is When filters stacked filters.. i did a 9 stop (ND400) with 10 stop (ND110) on Noon time for a 90s+ exposure.. Though stacking filters which results in deteroirating of iq and funny color casting s strongly discouraged
 

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Smoothen water can be achieved even with very harsh light ?
because when i try to meter on 1 - 2pm with 10 stops
my camera sometimes dun allow me to even have a 1 sec exposure time :confused:
why you need to meter with filter on?

just take the meter reading without filter,
compose your framing,
put on the filter,
add 10 stops to your exposure, (manual mode)

and why you chose a brightest time of the daylight to shoot long exposure?
even you step down 10 stops, you probably only getting 1 sec shutter speed, is that good enough for you?
 

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you need to understand that an ND filter is not some magical godsend which will automatically give you what you want, slapping it in front of your lenses. If the ambient lighting is too strong, you won't get that long exposure you are looking for, regardless of where you meter. Period.
 

fatBozZ

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Maybe what i should change is the timimg of my shots ...
 

wildcat

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and then maybe you will ask the right question ;)
 

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