TS, sorry borrow about the overblown HL.
Rashkae, do consider this as overblown...
at the zoo, there is no choice. Since you are there, you have to take the pics.
I'm thinking of using flash in the bright sunlight and metering off the highlights. The shadows will at least be brighter with the flash, compared to metering off the highlights without the flash.
Would this work ? Didn't have a chance to try this out as I forgot to bring the flash along the trip.
I would say that the picture had a goo amount of -EV, and the saturation is excessive. The sky looks unnatural. Maybe lots of curve adjustments in PS?
The olympus cameras use a small sensor. and the E1 is also known for blowing highlights.
Blown (i.e. clipped) highlights are a "problem" of all digital cameras which is easily avoided by not overexposing. Best tip I can give is to meter for the highlights and, when in doubt, bracket. Cameras with reasonable dynamic range should record enough shadow detail that can be brought out by dealing with the contrast with the usual darkroom/image processing techniques.
And, if you're wondering, it's a problem with the small, 4/3 size sensors. Also, you're talking about 2003-era technology.
If you look at the bottom building pics here, you'll see highlight clipping on the building:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/OlympusE1/page17.asp
You'll also notice the comparison to the Sony F717 here:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/OlympusE1/page21.asp
I really think you're just hitting the limitations of the E1.
can we get around the problem by metering off the highlights and using a flash ? that way, the flash will bring out the details in the shadows, while the highlights are metered correctly.
I'm thinking of using flash in the bright sunlight and metering off the highlights. The shadows will at least be brighter with the flash, compared to metering off the highlights without the flash.
Would this work ? Didn't have a chance to try this out as I forgot to bring the flash along the trip.
Camera: Olympus E1
Flash: FL36
Correct, but the 4/3 cameras, especially the older generation like the E1, have very very poor dynamic range.
Are you a professional on a deadline? If you really have to, you could always look for stock photos... otherwise, how about accepting that for outdoor photos, you depend to a considerable extent on the cooperation of mother nature?
I think using flash is not particularly nice towards the animals who must already be stressed out enough by the usual hordes of bratty visitors (on the other hand, you can argue it doesn't really make much
of a difference anymore). Also, you would need a pretty powerful flash to make a difference in bright sunlight for animals that are 10 or 20 meters away, and you may have problems with burned out foreground. It's also a matter of taste - many people are happy with fill-in flash. I usually find the resulting pictures rather unnatural.
have you used the E1 before?
I have used plenty of cameras including E1, KM7D, D70, s3pro, E330, E510.... frankly the oly DR is slightly worse than others but not that far off. only the S3pro has a significant difference in DR.
The E1 is "better' as it only has 5 megapixel
Best situationno, I'm not a professional. I only go to the zoo when my kid pester me. It's $20 per entry per person, can easily go up to more than $100 with entire family and meals and rides and drinks, so I can't go there as often as I please. So whenever I'm there, I try to maximise my time/investment by enhancing my phototaking skills.
Of course I can wait for cloudy weather and go to the zoo, but like I said, my main reason for going to the zoo is because of my kid. Once you're a parent, you have to fit your schedule to your kid.
So the question is, given the unfavourable conditions, how do I use the best of the situation, or how do I work around the situation ?
Yes fill in flash is recommendedI don't think I need too powerful a flash, since the ambient light is quite strong, just enough to put some light into the shadows.
Correct, but the 4/3 cameras, especially the older generation like the E1, have very very poor dynamic range.
have you used the E1 before?
I have used plenty of cameras including E1, KM7D, D70, s3pro, E330, E510.... frankly the oly DR is slightly worse than others but not that far off. only the S3pro has a significant difference in DR.
The E1 is "better' as it only has 5 megapixel
It's about $17 per entry per person, can easily go up to more than $100 with entire family and meals and rides and drinks, so I can't go there as often as I please. So whenever I'm there, I try to maximise my time/investment by enhancing my phototaking skills.
So the question is, given the unfavourable conditions, how do I use the best of the situation, or how do I work around the situation ?
Yes, i've used the E1. I was very disappointed by daytime shots.
Best situation
- look out during animals feeding time when they are active
- as for exposure, no change and depend on your luck. Best lighting is still morning, cloudy day and later afternoon.
- use longer focal length to capture closer view so as to avoid the area with too many exposures difference and the distracting objects in the background
- mostly depend on luck and capture the animal unusual behaviors
Yes fill in flash is recommended
Below is some of my animal shots taken at the zoo sometimes back
http://gallery.clubsnap.com/showphoto.php/photo/31/ppuser/26
http://gallery.clubsnap.com/showphoto.php/photo/30/ppuser/26
http://gallery.clubsnap.com/showphoto.php/photo/23/ppuser/26
http://gallery.clubsnap.com/showphoto.php/photo/26/ppuser/26
frankly I was a little dissappointed too. That is why the next camera after the E1 was the s3pro (not sony/nikon/canon) and the s3pro was really much better. But that was the s3pro. Frankly, I don't think the sony/nikon/canon DSLRs is much better in terms of DR.
Although, I certainly hope so as I am more or less thinking of going with twin A300s with 2 sigma lens, 10-20mm and 50-150. The A300 has everything I want, a E330 kind of live view, stabilization, cheap WA, cheap f2.8 50-150mm zoom, and hopefully better DR and noise performance
But frankly, from all the various objective reviews out there, I really doubt that other than the fuji S series, most of the DSLRs have pretty similar DR with oly 4/3s being slightly lower (less than 1 stop) and the rest better. And Fuji S series is around 2 stops better than the rest.