Is it a necessasy to attend some basic photograhy lessons to really into understanding the truth photography or just learn from mistake to aquire the skill and truth of photography. How many brother out there just plan DIY photographer, care to share some of your sweets and sour moment during the progress of your journey till now.
Basic Photograhy course
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I did a basic photography course when i first started out, and its definatly worth it, the knowledge and experience you can gain from it is amazing, i would recommend it for any newcomer to photography, the guy i did it with was an excellent teacher and i would really recommend him, he is also a CS member aswell.
Check out http://www.phildate.com.sg for more info on his courses.
Hope this helps!
Check out http://www.phildate.com.sg for more info on his courses.
Hope this helps!
I also took a basic photography course when my wife and I were still studying in NTU, and she had a photojournalism module. We signed up with a friend, who's conducting courses. Of course, back then, we learnt about the basics of film photography, and did alot of work in the darkroom. Still a basic course covers the fundamentals in photography techniques. Try out the course at PSS.
From the basic course, I moved on to getting my own camera and practice, read books from the library, magazines, etc.
There are many photos which did not make the grade, but there were nice memories too.
From the basic course, I moved on to getting my own camera and practice, read books from the library, magazines, etc.
There are many photos which did not make the grade, but there were nice memories too.
I learned basics mostly from books and practice (digi cams are useful) and now am starting to move into film. I would say that the rpactice and trial and error freedom of digital certinaly helped me fone tune the fundamentals more. I would like to learn proper darkroom skills eventually though.
Hi Bro, I spent 4 years doing a degree in photography, and what I can say is, though on the surface photography is merely peeking thru the viewfinder, composing the shot, adjusting the dials for exposure and pressing the shutter, there is a lot more in photography than meets the eye. One can view or use photography as a fun hobby that can bring many happy (sometimes sad) memories, but it is also a very complicated, intricate and technical sport/ hobby/ profession/ interest/ passion; whether on the camera's front or in the darkroom.
And I do not mean some strange stuff that we'll never use in our daily photography. I mean knowledge and facts that will enhance your photos. Of course, one will not learn these from going for that express photography course.
Looking and learning from other people's images play a big part in improving one's skills and eye. I used to drown myself in the images of great names like Ansel Adam, Herb Ritts, Horst P Horst, Annie Liebovitz, etc, etc. I also studied the images of designers and artists cos I believe these many ideas, methods, etc, will be processed in my own mind and when doing shoots, ideas will just pop up from nowhere and i get great shoots. At that time when I was so into those books and very passionate about photography, I was so good I was the pet of all the photography lecturers. And this was in London.
I'm not here to brag. Just trying to bring across the point that studying others' images is important. I only managed to attain a certain standard in photography because I 'learnt from the pros'.
The eyes of models and the reflections on an object in a photograph tell a lot - how many lights are used and how they are positioned, are they snoots or softboxes, any reflectors used, where the camera man is standing and the equipment he's using, etc, etc.
I can go on forever, but my bottom line is one can learn by going for courses, or can pick it up from friends, books, experiences, mistakes, etc. Both ways you learn. It is how passionate you are and how involved you want to be that makes the difference. Show me a man who is completely passionate about his photography, but has never attended any course, and another man who has gone for the best photo courses but doesn't give a damn, and I'll bet my last dollar the unlearned man takes much much better pictures.
And I do not mean some strange stuff that we'll never use in our daily photography. I mean knowledge and facts that will enhance your photos. Of course, one will not learn these from going for that express photography course.
Looking and learning from other people's images play a big part in improving one's skills and eye. I used to drown myself in the images of great names like Ansel Adam, Herb Ritts, Horst P Horst, Annie Liebovitz, etc, etc. I also studied the images of designers and artists cos I believe these many ideas, methods, etc, will be processed in my own mind and when doing shoots, ideas will just pop up from nowhere and i get great shoots. At that time when I was so into those books and very passionate about photography, I was so good I was the pet of all the photography lecturers. And this was in London.
I'm not here to brag. Just trying to bring across the point that studying others' images is important. I only managed to attain a certain standard in photography because I 'learnt from the pros'.
The eyes of models and the reflections on an object in a photograph tell a lot - how many lights are used and how they are positioned, are they snoots or softboxes, any reflectors used, where the camera man is standing and the equipment he's using, etc, etc.
I can go on forever, but my bottom line is one can learn by going for courses, or can pick it up from friends, books, experiences, mistakes, etc. Both ways you learn. It is how passionate you are and how involved you want to be that makes the difference. Show me a man who is completely passionate about his photography, but has never attended any course, and another man who has gone for the best photo courses but doesn't give a damn, and I'll bet my last dollar the unlearned man takes much much better pictures.
Hi, all bro out there seem like most of yours photograhpy dream come with lot of memories, i bet all you really enjoy this hobby to every single moment in your life. So the answer to this hobby is commit, passion, love then come to theory. But still need a starting point, i believe this forum will make a good standing point with so many passionate bro out there to proivde comment and technique. Cheer to all of you out there, may 2006 be fill with wonderful and memorable year for you bro.
I'd say that it is not all that necessary if you can pick up a book on basic photography and understand what they are talking about.lwt11137 said:
That said, I must add that though attending a course is not necessary, learning the basics is essential.
I had a friend who had been taking photos for years. On one occasion when he was doing an imformal potrait shoot, I asked him why he didn't try a wider aperture for a certain shot to reduce depth of field, he replied that the picture would then be over exposed. When I offered that he could correct it by increasing his shutter speed, his reply was that a good picture had to be taken at f/5.6 at 1/250.
As you can see from this illustration, that having an intimate knowledge of the basics of photography is important if you are to venture beyond settings that first provided you with a successful shot. Without this knowledge, you will forever be doing things blindly and will never know why a particular shot was a success or failure.
I have to admit that I have never attended a course in basic photography. All my knowledge has been gleaned off the pages of photography books and magazines.
Personally, I think that going for a course is good, but that is only after you have
play with your camera for a while. Get to know your tools from inside out first.
Read the manual and then experiment. Read up books on photography and try out.
Join a group like CS that is filled with people of the same passion as yourself and learn from
one another.
If you find that you still need some formal training, then enroll in a class.
By then you already have some good knowledge about photography and you
can fire your questions at the trainer. Be careful, if the trainer is really good you will be backfired. :bsmilie: You can relate what you have tried yourself
and share with others in the class. That will benefit everyone.
If you have never touch a camera or do some read up before you enrol in a course,
I think you may have a hard time understanding some technical terms while the trainer
deliver his speech.
I strongly agree with Heartshape. After all it is your attitude towards learning that counts.
play with your camera for a while. Get to know your tools from inside out first.
Read the manual and then experiment. Read up books on photography and try out.
Join a group like CS that is filled with people of the same passion as yourself and learn from
one another.
If you find that you still need some formal training, then enroll in a class.
By then you already have some good knowledge about photography and you
can fire your questions at the trainer. Be careful, if the trainer is really good you will be backfired. :bsmilie: You can relate what you have tried yourself
and share with others in the class. That will benefit everyone.
If you have never touch a camera or do some read up before you enrol in a course,
I think you may have a hard time understanding some technical terms while the trainer
deliver his speech.
I strongly agree with Heartshape. After all it is your attitude towards learning that counts.
During the past had been using my dad camera shooting during family outing... etc on and off, did not really go into serious photograpy but basic like depth of veiw, apature, slow speed and fast speed still heard from my dad shooting story. So now my dad left over all his stuff, actually wanted to sell it off but found out prices are really to low. So just telling myself why not take up his hobby, but just found out myself really a nut in photography. So where shall i start from.obewan said:
lwt11137 said:
Hi,
If you wanna sign up for Basic Photography Course, you can visit www.blackboxphoto.net.
The fees is S$195.
lwt11137 said:
Photography is a great hobby. I myself was only a P&S shooter before I join CS. In this forum, I pick up a lot of information and still learning now.
I also go online to source for information about photography. Got time, I will go out to
shoot events or join some of the outings here. It is a great way to make friends and learn
about photography.
I will answer your last question here. Start from Clubsnap. Look out for outings organise for newbies. From there, you will start to pick up a great deal of information. Your interest
will also grow when you mix with people of the same interest. :bsmilie:
still a newbie here, learn a lot from forums, internet reading, and shot, shot, shot.
but I guess with photography course, I will save quite a lot of time from searching the info myself, and have a more complete info about photography.
but I guess with photography course, I will save quite a lot of time from searching the info myself, and have a more complete info about photography.
lwt11137 said:
In my opinion, "basic" courses are a waste of money. There is so much good information out there in manuals, books, and online (mostly for free!), which one can go through at one's own pace. The few lessons of a typical course are not enough time to understand things in depth (even if the instructor tries to explain everything in depth), so it's little more than follow the instructions without really understanding why - this you can also have from a book.
I think the help of a tutor/mentor is much more valuable once you're beyond the "follow instruction" stage and work on really understanding why things are they way they are. At this stage, one stumbles over inconsistencies, inaccuracies, and sometimes wrong statements in reference material. This is where someone experienced can really help to clarify things, and this is not something that can be confined to a fixed schedule of a few lessons.
The advantage of a class/course over discussing questions e.g. here on Clubsnap is that you get clear-cut answers from some "authority" instead of a multitude of opinions. The disadvantage is that the "authority" may not always be right, and without a second and third and fourth and ... opinion you might not find out or be aware of what is "fact" and what is contested "opinion".
i think library got alot.
but now mostly its for digital.
however! even small library like bukit panjang also got vv good guides.
omg. so much things to learn, im getting indigestion just looking at the books.
anyway if you read to learn.
i suggest you clearly find out the course outline before you go.
otherwise waste money learn the things you know liao.
diy diy pocket will break hole wan, unless you use digi.
but still, im diy diying. one picture take 5-6times. omg.
record 15times.
night shots lah.
chao stupid.
but now mostly its for digital.
however! even small library like bukit panjang also got vv good guides.
omg. so much things to learn, im getting indigestion just looking at the books.
anyway if you read to learn.
i suggest you clearly find out the course outline before you go.
otherwise waste money learn the things you know liao.
diy diy pocket will break hole wan, unless you use digi.
but still, im diy diying. one picture take 5-6times. omg.
record 15times.
night shots lah.
chao stupid.
Same here, that why bought a dslr to start with basic, most likely will go back to flim, maybe have time will go into Medium format. See how the hook get on.mintae said:i think library got alot.
but now mostly its for digital.
however! even small library like bukit panjang also got vv good guides.
omg. so much things to learn, im getting indigestion just looking at the books.
anyway if you read to learn.
i suggest you clearly find out the course outline before you go.
otherwise waste money learn the things you know liao.
diy diy pocket will break hole wan, unless you use digi.
but still, im diy diying. one picture take 5-6times. omg.
record 15times.
night shots lah.
chao stupid.
Join Safra Mt faber course. Cheap and good. Just go for the basic photography (they have basic digital photography as well but higher price) if you want to know the basics. Outings and lessons are very basic and good for those beginners and the teacher is a very experienced one. I just finished the course and can say I have learnt a lot from him. But of course, that is only the start, then comes the experimenting.
Good luck, I think they have a course starting end this month or early next month.
Regards,
tltan
Good luck, I think they have a course starting end this month or early next month.
Regards,
tltan
i spent 2yrs reading forums and articles before getting my 1st digi cam. it almost adds to my field experience.
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