it sounds like she's got lolita complex too...take this as 2 lessons learnt: Never pay cash up front without a written contract and never work with someone young again!:sweat:
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it sounds like she's got lolita complex too...take this as 2 lessons learnt: Never pay cash up front without a written contract and never work with someone young again!:sweat:
I edited something at the end:
It's best to just save ourselves the grief and avoid dealing with kids, no matter how cheap they are, or how alluring they look. They know that, and prey on our symphaties and very often, human desires.
Edited to add: Disclaimer: I know the above is a generalisation, and there are always exceptions. I have had the pleasure of knowing a few very responsible and hard-working teenagers and young adults in the past. You have to be very aware of what kind of person you're dealing with.
It's best to just save ourselves the grief and avoid dealing with kids, no matter how cheap they are, or how alluring they look. They know that, and prey on our symphaties and very often, human desires.
Edited to add: Disclaimer: I know the above is a generalisation, and there are always exceptions. I have had the pleasure of knowing a few very responsible and hard-working teenagers and young adults in the past. You have to be very aware of what kind of person you're dealing with.
business dealings should ideally b in B&W. leave less room for error, headache. responsiblility & accountability should b above held in higher regard than vague verbal agreements.
if u trust me leave ur car keys w/ me for a few mins if u need go toilet break! :lovegrin:
With friends like you, who needs enemies :bsmilie:
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I doubt there was a contract between TS and model. If there was then it can be an official compliant case in the event of no-show. Then again, client did agree to make-up date, so can't say its an intentional fraud.
think it depends on whether there are witnesses present so its more than just he said she said.
Since she has email u regarding the refund then there is black n white about the contract liao if she still try to 'siam' by monday then make police report then she will really have to do the "i drink u lick' thingy liao:devil:
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How can you record verbal? Unless you have a recorder or what? This one I really need to find out. Can elaborate further so I can use it for my further customers who is not willing to pay up!!!!!!:devil:
You don't need to record a conversation in order to be able to sue on a verbal contract. A good example is the case when you get into a taxi. It is an implied contract when you tell the cab driver where your destination is and he takes you there. When you arrive, the cabbie expects to get paid by you and you are bound by law to pay him the fare shown on the taxi meter. At no point in time have you signed a written contract with him, or for that case, with any taxi driver. Yet if you don't pay him, he can report you to the police as well as sue you for the fare (and legal costs)!
I hope this is clear.
Another point is that contracts made with minors in Singapore (i.e. under 21 years of age) are generally unenforceable except in certain cases, like contracts of apprenticeship of those relating to education, training, employment contracts, etc. I am not sure about this case - whether Naomi falls into these exceptions or otherwise. You'll need to examine the circumstances and terms of your agreement with her. Not so clear cut!
does tis boil down to us as ppl, whether 1 2 do things & agree on paper or verbal contract in thin air.
must insist future model assignments b inked on paper to safeguard ourselves against despo models out to earn easy $$! ligit model agency should hav clauses ttz fair to model & client in regard to "unpleasant surprises"- no show, bad weather, rubber timers.... :nono:
dun let lust get d betta of us (straight) guys! :devil:
must insist future model assignments b inked on paper to safeguard ourselves against despo models out to earn easy $$! ligit model agency should hav clauses ttz fair to model & client in regard to "unpleasant surprises"- no show, bad weather, rubber timers.... :nono:
dun let lust get d betta of us (straight) guys! :devil:
The thread starter was just trying to be nice, i believe. Knowing that the model is in need of money.
My grand father use to tell me (in a different language than English) :
"Dum and nice are starting with the same letter (in my native tongue), be nice not dum".
Deadpoet is absolutely right.
I am not saying that the TS is dum but he has been a bit naive.
As for the model ! She should be fined 10.000 SGD, six strokes of the cane and publicly hanged. At least and as a first warning !
"Dum and nice are starting with the same letter (in my native tongue), be nice not dum".
Deadpoet is absolutely right.
I am not saying that the TS is dum but he has been a bit naive.
As for the model ! She should be fined 10.000 SGD, six strokes of the cane and publicly hanged. At least and as a first warning !
Well, maybe not hanged publicly... at least, not literally.
But it is being done metaphorically here. ;p
Not just young lah..
till now i have yet to get back my money for a canceled shoot/workshop...
and the organizer is apparently busy with other consignment and bought new equipments.
till now i have yet to get back my money for a canceled shoot/workshop...
and the organizer is apparently busy with other consignment and bought new equipments.
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