Are Models too Skinny


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smallaperture

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All the models for photo, in exhibitions or fashion shows are too skinny, too bony IMO. I guess this is the era of slimming pills and slimming centres, but bust enhancement.

Marilyn Monroe ain't skinny. She got the perfect figure for that epoch.

Going further back in history, some of the Renaissance Art by Rubens for example showed women in larger proportion.

Now, looking at the athletes in the beach volleyball - some of the look in fantastic shape - some muscles and a wee bit of fat........
 

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smallaperture said:
All the models for photo, in exhibitions or fashion shows are too skinny, too bony IMO. I guess this is the era of slimming pills and slimming centres, but bust enhancement.

Marilyn Monroe ain't skinny. She got the perfect figure for that epoch.

Going further back in history, some of the Renaissance Art by Rubens for example showed women in larger proportion.

Now, looking at the athletes in the beach volleyball - some of the look in fantastic shape - some muscles and a wee bit of fat........
very subjective and I am therefore guilty for being the crowd that promote the waif look, you have Marilyn and I have Ziggy :)
That said, I also love the athelete's body, so well defined, that was why so many of us was glued to the TV during the Athens Olympic watching womens beach volleyball, nice legs and very tight butts :)
 

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going by what media are 'pushing', i am not surprised another 'by cruz' episode may rise. some of our media personality who are ambassoders of slimming centres. eg. from china, tv female host who has a 6 yo kid. she is so skinny nowadays. so unattractive. $$ has got inside their brains?
 

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So...one man's meat is another man's poison....

I guess the advertisers have failed to evoke a positive response from you with "skinnies". But then you might just represent that 15% of the population who don't like "skinnies"....
:bsmilie:

I like skinnies and none skinnies.... They are all fun people... hahaha!
;p
 

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Actually, there are 2 "skinny" looks we are referring to all the time, but all too often, they are not distinguished from each other.

1) the bad one skin wrapping bones - the anorexic look, or worse, actually anorexic.
2) the good one, tight slim toned body with some curves, what I dream of all the time.

I guess most "skinnies" falls somewhere in between the good and the bad.
 

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Hmm.. looks like I'm also responsible for making models skinny. :devil: Guess it's just job lah.. Sometimes I insist my models to go for very strict diet before I shoot them, as seriously, I don't want to waste my time shooting pictures that I can't use. Blame it on commercialism, and human frailities to constantly sought after beauty.
 

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Skye Tan said:
Hmm.. looks like I'm also responsible for making models skinny. :devil: Guess it's just job lah.. Sometimes I insist my models to go for very strict diet before I shoot them, as seriously, I don't want to waste my time shooting pictures that I can't use. Blame it on commercialism, and human frailities to constantly sought after beauty.
The worse is a model having a "facial blemishes" breakout ... happens too often here in Singapore, I attribute this to the spicy diet and the humid weather. Luckily, I shoot only for myself, but hate to spend hours on end touching up in PS.

And I cannot blame it on commercialism, guess I have to take it solely on human frailities :( oh well ....
 

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thank you hammer!!! nice, aren't they
 

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smallaperture said:
All the models for photo, in exhibitions or fashion shows are too skinny, too bony IMO. I guess this is the era of slimming pills and slimming centres, but bust enhancement.

Marilyn Monroe ain't skinny. She got the perfect figure for that epoch.

Going further back in history, some of the Renaissance Art by Rubens for example showed women in larger proportion.

Now, looking at the athletes in the beach volleyball - some of the look in fantastic shape - some muscles and a wee bit of fat........
Yes they are too skinny. Physical attractiveness is partly socially constructed, though some factors tend to stay constant across societies, e.g. symmetry. Fashion wouldn't be where it is today if not for the start of the fashion industry in the early 1910-20 United States, constructed mainly to spur the domestic retail and textiles industries. How we've equated thin = beauty, and how far back this goes into history from a "western" standpoint, is a good question. There are still some societies today that don't see thinness as beautiful.
 

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cardsharpclark said:
Yes they are too skinny. Physical attractiveness is partly socially constructed, though some factors tend to stay constant across societies, e.g. symmetry. Fashion wouldn't be where it is today if not for the start of the fashion industry in the early 1910-20 United States, constructed mainly to spur the domestic retail and textiles industries. How we've equated thin = beauty, and how far back this goes into history from a "western" standpoint, is a good question. There are still some societies today that don't see thinness as beautiful.
Symmetry in inanimate objects are considered beautiful. Buildings, structures, etc. For humans, studies have shown that those considered beautiful are usually not symmetrical. In fact, there are certain "features" which on its own are flaws but somehow enhances the person's looks or appearance to be considered beautiful. Beauty is not perfect.

Notice the beautiful artwork in another thread on digital models.... see how the digital artist tries to add in skin texture, blemishes, moles, stray hairs etc etc to add to the beauty of the digital model?? Yup, its trying to introduce these "features" that we often take for granted when we say, "She's a beauty!"
;)
 

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Zplus said:
Symmetry in inanimate objects are considered beautiful. Buildings, structures, etc. For humans, studies have shown that those considered beautiful are usually not symmetrical. In fact, there are certain "features" which on its own are flaws but somehow enhances the person's looks or appearance to be considered beautiful. Beauty is not perfect.

Notice the beautiful artwork in another thread on digital models.... see how the digital artist tries to add in skin texture, blemishes, moles, stray hairs etc etc to add to the beauty of the digital model?? Yup, its trying to introduce these "features" that we often take for granted when we say, "She's a beauty!"
;)
I think you're taking the wrong idea of symmetry. It's known that no one is completely symmetrical. Also, I'm not saying symmetry equates to beauty but that symmetry is often a factor in beauty.

http://www.google.com/search?q=beauty+symmetry+psychology+site:edu
http://www.google.com/search?q=beauty+symmetry+psychology+site:uk
 

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smallaperture said:
All the models for photo, in exhibitions or fashion shows are too skinny, too bony IMO. I guess this is the era of slimming pills and slimming centres, but bust enhancement.
i don't really agree that there are too many skinny models in exhibitions or general advertisements, but for fashion shows (esp the high fashion haute couture ones), there's a good reason for skinny models. clothes (esp designer one-off pieces) are easier to design around skinny figures and also skinny models can change into and out of the fashion pieces easier than well-rounded ones. but that's not necessarily true of all shows either. there are brands which like to use bigger models, like some of the European labels.
 

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Michaelangelo's female models in his Renaissance art, as seen in the very famous sistine chapel was actually, believe it or not, based on male bodies. The final fresco paintings are those of beings with very fluid and dynamic power and strength, thus this is best characterised by the male body.

You must also understand that at that time in europe, there was a prohibition against artists using women as models in their paintings, even when you go back to the original charcoal drawings of Michaelangelo, you will find that they were originally based on male models. And in a sense, with regards to art, the large sized proportions lies either in the area due to the hierarchy of scale and for the matter that a large rounded stomach/hip area was often seen as an ideal of beauty, a symbolism of fertility. This isn't just confined to the Renaissance, it carries through into the Impressionist period as well, where women were noticeably at times, slightly more plump than they were made out to be.

Models are skinny usually for two reaasons

1) the industry demands it
2) peer pressure from other models, whether verbal or otherwise.

Go figure.
 

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There are fat models around, its just that many ppl would ignore them but would pay more attention to slim models, so sometimes u feel (and think) all models are slim and skinny.
 

reachme2003

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me guilty of this preference too.

Astin said:
There are fat models around, its just that many ppl would ignore them but would pay more attention to slim models, so sometimes u feel (and think) all models are slim and skinny.
 

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RuthBaby said:
i think asians are too small and flat.

angmos different
Very nice. Now only if there are more of them here in Singapore :)
 

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