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lkkang

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Shot taken using EOS-1D.
- 70-200mm + 1.4TC
- F8, 1/400 sec, ISO-100


1. in what area is critique to be sought?
I am very new to architecture shots, wish to seek improvement to this shot( in terms of composition ), or how can I improve the impact to this shot in post processing ( burn and dodging ).

I find that the TOP and BOTTOM of the picture is not terminating properly, somehow, the lights at the TOP and BOTTOM of the picture suddenly ends.. I do not know what should be done here ( in this picture ) that can improve it.

2. what one hopes to achieve with the piece of work?
- some lines and shadow patterns. The green reflection in the center is the key subject of interest.

3. under what circumstance is the picture taken? (physical conditions/emotions)
- hand held, window supported.
- bright day light ( side lighting , 11:30am),
- 70-200mm + 1.4TC ( extreme tele end ).

4. what the critique seeker personally thinks of the picture
- I wish to create some interesting mood to this shot. bright light and shadow.
- straight lines and contrast creating the impact.

thanks,
Billy
 

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i somehow like this shot alot but alot more if it were alittle more exposed or the shadow details pulled back. (maybe my laptop not accurate)

the symmetry is well balanced imo

i vote for a black and white :)
 

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i somehow like this shot alot but alot more if it were alittle more exposed or the shadow details pulled back. (maybe my laptop not accurate)

the symmetry is well balanced imo

i vote for a black and white :)
thanks, noted. :)
 

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You underexposed it?

Its a rather unusual shot but it doesn't carry much impact. Not because of the way you photograph it buts its what you photographed. You said the green reflection in the key but I struggled a bit to spot it (and it looks grey though). Its just no apparent enough to present itself as the key to your photograph. It is not significant enough to be the key.

I would actually increase the contrast so your highlights gets more attention. Forget about the shadowed areas and yes, a B&W conversion please.
 

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You underexposed it?

Its a rather unusual shot but it doesn't carry much impact. Not because of the way you photograph it buts its what you photographed. You said the green reflection in the key but I struggled a bit to spot it (and it looks grey though). Its just no apparent enough to present itself as the key to your photograph. It is not significant enough to be the key.

I would actually increase the contrast so your highlights gets more attention. Forget about the shadowed areas and yes, a B&W conversion please.
hi Kit,

Yes, -2 stop compensate.
Appreciated your comments and suggestions. Will work on it.

Kang
 

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If lines and shadows are your interests, strengthen them. This is what I would do. At times, you can abstract the scene, buildings need not be instantly recognised as they are.
 

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If lines and shadows are your interests, strengthen them. This is what I would do. At times, you can abstract the scene, buildings need not be instantly recognised as they are.
cool.

I see you point loud and clear.

thanks bro,
Kang
 

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Hmm, i personally, won't go for black and white for the following reasons:

1) If i am not wrong, billy based his framing on the green reflection. If not, i feel he would have balanced the upper and lower ledge more.

2) Once converted to black and white, hmm, i just feel, there is no main subject in the shot (cos of the intention of framing right at the beginning).

i suggest desaturating the yellow (and actually red and orange in LR) and keep the green reflection.



It's my noob view la.:embrass:
 

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Hmm, i personally, won't go for black and white for the following reasons:

1) If i am not wrong, billy based his framing on the green reflection. If not, i feel he would have balanced the upper and lower ledge more.

2) Once converted to black and white, hmm, i just feel, there is no main subject in the shot (cos of the intention of framing right at the beginning).

i suggest desaturating the yellow (and actually red and orange in LR) and keep the green reflection.



It's my noob view la.:embrass:
I like this! :thumbsup:
 

lkkang

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Hmm, i personally, won't go for black and white for the following reasons:

1) If i am not wrong, billy based his framing on the green reflection. If not, i feel he would have balanced the upper and lower ledge more.

2) Once converted to black and white, hmm, i just feel, there is no main subject in the shot (cos of the intention of framing right at the beginning).

i suggest desaturating the yellow (and actually red and orange in LR) and keep the green reflection.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2651/4256099851_2ea8383663_o.jpg

It's my noob view la.:embrass:
:) thanks Yapster.

This is precisely the reason I posted this picture for critique, no views are noob. And I sincerely appreciated all the effort that all was put to modify the picture and share the thoughts. Thanks.

Thanks for pointing out the color adjust. I learned something today.
 

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:) thanks Yapster.

This is precisely the reason I posted this picture for critique, no views are noob. And I sincerely appreciated all the effort that all was put to modify the picture and share the thoughts. Thanks.

Thanks for pointing out the color adjust. I learned something today.
You are welcome. Just sharing my thoughts. :D

Hmm, and if i remember correctly, this post by uncle catchlight in my thread last time helps me a lot when it comes to abstracts. :)

http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3295573&postcount=9

The 3rd line. :)
 

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lkkang

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You are welcome. Just sharing my thoughts. :D

Hmm, and if i remember correctly, this post by uncle catchlight in my thread last time helps me a lot when it comes to abstracts. :)

http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3295573&postcount=9

The 3rd line. :)
thanks... but, easier said then done :bsmilie:
I am still very new to architecture. hope to brush up my skills this 2010.
 

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it is interesting light

like kit says though, there is nothing much more than that.

yapster's take on bringing out the color improves the shot, i agree, but the green leaks at the top and at the ledge below the lighted up green area in his example should be desautrated more in my view.

i am a wee bit curious about the constant insistence on 3:2 format. there are loads of times when a square format, 4:3 format, 16:9 format, 2:1, whatever.. alternative ratios to 3:2 work a whole load better than 3:2.

for me, i do not see how inclusion of the below window with the light there helps this any. have you considered cropping it out to a more squarish format. let me emphasize, you should not crop to save the image as far as possible, but rather, shoot with the end result in mind. in that way, you will better understand what ratios work better, why.. etc.

hope this doesn't come off as sounding too convoluted ;)
 

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aside from the light, it's the windows that suggest a dialogue in this one. i guess it depends on what you really want to put across
 

lkkang

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it is interesting light

like kit says though, there is nothing much more than that.

yapster's take on bringing out the color improves the shot, i agree, but the green leaks at the top and at the ledge below the lighted up green area in his example should be desautrated more in my view.

i am a wee bit curious about the constant insistence on 3:2 format. there are loads of times when a square format, 4:3 format, 16:9 format, 2:1, whatever.. alternative ratios to 3:2 work a whole load better than 3:2.

for me, i do not see how inclusion of the below window with the light there helps this any. have you considered cropping it out to a more squarish format. let me emphasize, you should not crop to save the image as far as possible, but rather, shoot with the end result in mind. in that way, you will better understand what ratios work better, why.. etc.

hope this doesn't come off as sounding too convoluted ;)
thanks for the comment.

The shot posted is as RAW as it gets. I thought by doing so, the person giving the comment will know what is further possible to be done to this picture.

I do agree that a square format is stronger for this shot.

thanks,
Kang
 

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thanks... but, easier said then done :bsmilie:
I am still very new to architecture. hope to brush up my skills this 2010.
Haha, true la... i ain't good at it.

When it comes to architectural abstract using available light outdoor, i feel giantcanopy and kit did a good job.

For interior and lines and curves, i personally find andrewtansj has that unique eye. :)

but the green leaks at the top and at the ledge below the lighted up green area in his example should be desaturated more in my view.
Oh ya, i noticed that too. Paiseh, didn't do a proper job, i simply just remove the 3 colours mentioned in LR. :embrass:
 

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Hmm, i personally, won't go for black and white for the following reasons:

1) If i am not wrong, billy based his framing on the green reflection. If not, i feel he would have balanced the upper and lower ledge more.

2) Once converted to black and white, hmm, i just feel, there is no main subject in the shot (cos of the intention of framing right at the beginning).

i suggest desaturating the yellow (and actually red and orange in LR) and keep the green reflection.



It's my noob view la.:embrass:
Beautiful!
 

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