Advisable filter to buy


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Hi guys,

Im new in photography. :)


Would like to ask your help with filters. I have UV filter and I would like to buy new one that can help to improve my picture quality. Which filters are frequently used and more advisable to use for day and night photoshoot. Thank you guys.
 

spree86

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sgfreecycle2011 said:
Hi guys,

Im new in photography. :)

Would like to ask your help with filters. I have UV filter and I would like to buy new one that can help to improve my picture quality. Which filters are frequently used and more advisable to use for day and night photoshoot. Thank you guys.
Filter don't improve picture quality. I think it would be better for you to read up on the different uses of different filters before deciding to get one.
 

pasay

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click HERE

it's a sticky at the top of newbies corner subforum.

take note, different filters cater to different uses and effects. if you don't know what you want to use it for, you probably don't need it yet. :)
 

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Hi guys,

Im new in photography. :)


Would like to ask your help with filters. I have UV filter and I would like to buy new one that can help to improve my picture quality. Which filters are frequently used and more advisable to use for day and night photoshoot. Thank you guys.
hmm actually IMO its better to shoot without uv filter, =) same for day and night haha
 

huatman

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Maybe should say a UV filter won't degrade the IQ too much? Can consider Hoya or B+W, there are few different type of those 2 brand, depend on ur budget.
 

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Thanks guys.

I will use the filter for landscape. Thanks alot for the reply. Thanks alot for the links. Very much appreciated. :)
 

Octarine

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I will use the filter for landscape. Thanks alot for the reply. Thanks alot for the links. Very much appreciated. :)
Take the same picture with and without UV filter. Pixel-peep till your eyes will pop out .. Can you see it? Draw your own conclusions.
 

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rhino123

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Thanks guys.

I will use the filter for landscape. Thanks alot for the reply. Thanks alot for the links. Very much appreciated. :)
Filters will not improve your image quality - period. But sometime it a good tool to use. You can look at CPL filter, ND filter, GND filter, IR filter, etc, etc.

But those are actually very specialise filters that you might not want to leave them on permanently... So unless you really need them... don't waste your money, because they are not cheap.
 

clov3r

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Hi guys,

Im new in photography. :)


Would like to ask your help with filters. I have UV filter and I would like to buy new one that can help to improve my picture quality. Which filters are frequently used and more advisable to use for day and night photoshoot. Thank you guys.

Filters dun improve quality, rather they might actually degrade quality to certain extend. But still, its a norm to use them. Anyway, there are CPL(Circular-Polarizer) filters, ND(Neutral-Density) filters and the normal UV filters. It all depends wad u are shooting, landscape or street....blah blah..... For day, normally would use just UV, or if its a very bright day, you can use a CPL filter. If u wanna do long exposure during the day, you can use ND filters, where you can get dreamy effects. For night, just normal UV filter will do, but some people do use ND filters in the night for certain settings for long exposures too.
 

daredevil123

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Filters dun improve quality, rather they might actually degrade quality to certain extend. But still, its a norm to use them. Anyway, there are CPL(Circular-Polarizer) filters, ND(Neutral-Density) filters and the normal UV filters. It all depends wad u are shooting, landscape or street....blah blah..... For day, normally would use just UV, or if its a very bright day, you can use a CPL filter. If u wanna do long exposure during the day, you can use ND filters, where you can get dreamy effects. For night, just normal UV filter will do, but some people do use ND filters in the night for certain settings for long exposures too.
It is a lot more complicated that what you said.

At night, it is best if you take off ALL filters.

You can read up more about filters here if you want to learn more.
http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/newbies-corner/803029-newbie-guide-filters.html
 

Octarine

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Filters dun improve quality, rather they might actually degrade quality to certain extend. But still, its a norm to use them. [...]
Where do you derive this from? UV filters are simply not needed at all for taking pictures. There is no need to filter out UV light when using digital cameras: the sensor is not sensitive enough to get affected (in contrast to film) and the newer lens glass coating blocks UV to a large extend.
Using UV filters for protection is likely one of the most successful sales stories ... A lens hood serves much better as protector (combined with common sense, care and alertness). Only weather sealed lenses require UV filters to complete the sealing.
 

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UV filters may sometimes hinders while shooting. It's true, I've experienced that.
When I used a damn cheap UV filter on a lens to shoot on the streets, it gave me lens flare.

But when I take the filter out, it's ok.
So filters may cause photos to be worse, at times. :(
 

clov3r

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Where do you derive this from? UV filters are simply not needed at all for taking pictures. There is no need to filter out UV light when using digital cameras: the sensor is not sensitive enough to get affected (in contrast to film) and the newer lens glass coating blocks UV to a large extend.
Using UV filters for protection is likely one of the most successful sales stories ... A lens hood serves much better as protector (combined with common sense, care and alertness). Only weather sealed lenses require UV filters to complete the sealing.

They can affect IQ, the severity depends primarily on the quality of the filter. I agree about what u say about not using UV filters, cos UV "protection" isn't really needed in these days, as current digital cameras have a UV filter over the sensor. It's also unlikely UV would be able to travel through today's current lenses anyway. That being said, from a strictly technical perspective, a UV filter certainly cannot increase image quality, since it introduces an additional layer of glass between your camera's sensor and the subject. For me UV filters are just to protect my lens, I often find situations where I'm repeatedly wiping the front of my lens with a cleaning cloth. Over time this can leave micro-abrasions on the glass, especially if the cleaning cloth has to be used in the field, and is not perfectly dust/particle free.
 

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It depends actualy on the Photographer's preferences whether he is comfortable taking photos with it or not. but I used filters mainly for protection in addition to having a lens hood, for you never know when disaster could strike.
 

Octarine

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For me UV filters are just to protect my lens, I often find situations where I'm repeatedly wiping the front of my lens with a cleaning cloth. Over time this can leave micro-abrasions on the glass, especially if the cleaning cloth has to be used in the field, and is not perfectly dust/particle free.
It will take a lot to make these 'micro abrasions' become visible or start affecting your images.
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2008/10/front-element-scratches
Dirty lens article
 

alancwr

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It depends actualy on the Photographer's preferences whether he is comfortable taking photos with it or not. but I used filters mainly for protection in addition to having a lens hood, for you never know when disaster could strike.
Qft for this

**** happens
 

daredevil123

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clov3r said:
They can affect IQ, the severity depends primarily on the quality of the filter. I agree about what u say about not using UV filters, cos UV "protection" isn't really needed in these days, as current digital cameras have a UV filter over the sensor. It's also unlikely UV would be able to travel through today's current lenses anyway. That being said, from a strictly technical perspective, a UV filter certainly cannot increase image quality, since it introduces an additional layer of glass between your camera's sensor and the subject. For me UV filters are just to protect my lens, I often find situations where I'm repeatedly wiping the front of my lens with a cleaning cloth. Over time this can leave micro-abrasions on the glass, especially if the cleaning cloth has to be used in the field, and is not perfectly dust/particle free.
Don't think there is UV blocking in the AA filter. Afaik there is only IR blocking. Digital sensors are just not affected by UV light unlike film.
 

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I notice even the best b+w mrc slim uv filter reduce the iq sharpness on my 24-70L.
Btw, any idea how much will csc charge in case only the front glass is cracked ?
 

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digital camera contains an infrared hot mirror filter that blocks most of the infrared and a bit of the ultraviolet that would otherwise be detected by the sensor, narrowing the accepted range from about 400nm to 700nm
 

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digital camera contains an infrared hot mirror filter that blocks most of the infrared and a bit of the ultraviolet that would otherwise be detected by the sensor, narrowing the accepted range from about 400nm to 700nm
Digital sensors only have about 10-50nm sensitivity into the ultraviolet side of the light spectrum. They have relatively weak sensitivity to blue, and the UV sensitivity is generally captured as blue. Also, most UV wavelengths up to around 310nm are blocked/absorbed by the optical glass of a camera lens.
 

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