A proposal by SingTel CEO to charge the users who use WatsApp and Skype


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SingTel CEO Chua Sock Khoong must be jealous over Facebook acquisition of WatsApp for US$19b.

She must get something back from WatsApp. ;p

http://www.smh.com.au/business/sing...nd-whatsapp-20140225-33dmb.html#ixzz2uQuxFem0

Will you pay for these services such as $X cent for every text message send via WatsApp?

The primary attraction of people using WatsApp is because of free text messaging. With a $X fee charged, will you still use it?
 

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The user already paid for it in their data plan.
This is double charge and day light robbery :(
 

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She is thinking without box, that is why she is the CEO. My worry is without competition, one day this is going happen. Let's kill the glow before you see any naked flame. Haha
 

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Greed is one way of describing and it runs in the famiLEE. Anyone heard of chua siang chin, the former health minister who supervised operation coldstore- which jailed politiciams and destroyed lives of thousands of family members? Please google and find out :)

What type of person who earns millions and have billions stash elsewhere would delight taking $20 from the struggling and squeezed masses?

What type of person would "steal" from the masses and tell them that it is for yout good that i help you keep your money?
 

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I think Singtel had already clarify. They are not charging the customers (aka. us) but charging Whatsapp in using Singtel's network. The thing here is... will whatsapp move the cost to us or not?
 

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I think Singtel had already clarify. They are not charging the customers (aka. us) but charging Whatsapp in using Singtel's network. The thing here is... will whatsapp move the cost to us or not?
They have no right to charge Whatsapp. So they are trying to get legislation in different countries to force it. It has already been tried by another Telco in Australia. The OZ govt turned it down, saying that it is anti-competitive to do so.

If Whatsapp is indeed forced to pay telcos, they will definitely pass on the costs to consumers. It is understood. In the end, we get double charged.
 

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If I'm not wrong... I believe she meant business like Skypes or WhatsApp, should compensate Teleco... not that users like us should pay (which is laughable)... saw in the "greenzone", someone posted a few 'Tweets' (supposedly from SingTel), saying the public has misunderstood... but I didn't read to much into the thread to confirm...

Personally... I know Teleco companies all over the World would try to charge their Customer for using Apps like Skypes if possible... but I think its political/business suicide if they try...
 

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I think Singtel had already clarify. They are not charging the customers (aka. us) but charging Whatsapp in using Singtel's network. The thing here is... will whatsapp move the cost to us or not?
They need to clarify? I thought their proposal was pretty clear in the opening sentence of the link.

SingTel chief executive Chua Sock Koong has called on regulators to give carriers like Optus the right to charge rivals WhatsApp and Skype for use of their networks or risk a major decline in network investment.
 

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Who would subscribed to data plans and broadband if not for using Whatsapp, Skype, Facebook, etc? These apps already generated business for the telcos, isn't it?
 

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I don't think its just whatsapp. Singtel is asking for the right to enforce charges on similar apps running on its network. Aka: weChat, Line and such may also kena.

Greed in it ugliest form. Pretty sure whataspp is gonna pass the cost to consumers, if not how else are they going to shell out the payment to Stinktel?

If this piece of legislation goes thru, i really will believe that this statue is really a good representation of justice.



in that justice has gone blind.
 

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Who would subscribed to data plans and broadband if not for using Whatsapp, Skype, Facebook, etc? These apps already generated business for the telcos, isn't it?
No, they don't. Have you tried to calculate the costs if you were to send all messages as SMS? Now compare that to the top up for your data plan.
 

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No, they don't. Have you tried to calculate the costs if you were to send all messages as SMS? Now compare that to the top up for your data plan.
I can't speak for others. I only signed up for broadband to stream movies, data plan to use social media. If I have to pay to use these apps, I will simply go back to my free 500 sms and drop all these data plans. I don't even use MMS for its higher cost.
 

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She probably needs to find some way to recover that 'lost' revenue from SMS/MMS charges in order to justify her bonus and position as CEO. And should I say she 借刀杀人 but unfortunately Kena found out.

But I think her plan might succeed one day. Isn't Whatsapp already charging US customers annual fees already?
 

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Lets see what happens to Whatsapp in Jul this year...

A lot of people have already installed multiple messaging apps on their phone. If the pay sub starts, many will just switch to the next free app.
 

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Lets see what happens to Whatsapp in Jul this year... A lot of people have already installed multiple messaging apps on their phone. If the pay sub starts, many will just switch to the next free app.
Yup. If you can change phones easily, you can easily change messaging app.
 

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I need Whatsapp more than Stinktel. If they start charging, I'll switch service provider.
Knowing the local telcos, once sinktel starts, slowhub and minus1 will follow..m
 

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http://www.zdnet.com/singapore-mobile-users-must-be-given-access-to-ott-services-7000026874/

Mobile consumers in Singapore must be given access to Web content and apps, and Internet service providers (ISPs) should not create barriers to block such access.

That's the statement ICT regulator Infocomm Development Authority (IDA) issued after the CEO of local telco, SingTel, urged regulators to allow carriers to charge over-the-top players such as WhatsApp and Skype for the use of their networks. The country has three mobile operators: SingTel, StarHub, and M1.

An IDA spokesperson told ZDNet it was "closely monitoring" developments in this space and tracking international discussions between telcos and OTT service providers, specifically, debates around Net neutrality. "These discussions are complex as they require policies and regulatory measures that balance the need to promote innovation and competition in the Internet space, ensure non-discriminatory access to the Internet, and ensure protection of consumer interest," he said.

He noted that IDA, today, assumes a general policy position that consumers should have access to all legitimate content and applications on the internet. ISPs are not permitted to block or impose restrictions on such access, and should not implement charges or other measures that cause any legitimate Web content to be inaccessible or unusable, he added.

"ISPs are also not allowed to adopt internet traffic management practices that will compromise IDA's Quality of Service standards for internet access or any anti-competitive discriminatory practice that would harm consumers' interest.

"We are studying SingTel's and StarHub's plans to ensure IDA's policies are updated and continue to protect consumers' interests, while allowing market innovation," the spokesperson said.
 

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