As we are having a happy chinese lunar new year, but it a sad day for me in clubsnap. Why? It is because I know now I can't freely express my view that might be touchy to the "gods" of clubsnap. One example "student" kick out of clubsnap by answer a question post one such "god". Doc Chong is raw frank, I afraid as I am such person. Student is a very knowlegdable photographer on the matter of photography. Especially the zone system, film and large format photography. Many of us can talk out loud of using the latest digital camera, but how many have use a 11x14 large format camera and printed it's picture? We have lost this interesting individual in what would be robust forum. All of us are here to contribut and learn at the same time. Enjoy it where you can, just stay out of the "gods of clubsnap way" which I will do as I am one such person who do what he preach. So now with this thread my fate in clubsnap are in the hand of these "gods" and I will not respone to any comment the other supporter might have. But you free to express any thing you on this thread before it disappear :what: