The Nikon 500mm mirror lens is about 14+ cm in length. Short enough ?
Ryan
She's looking at shorter focal lengths for portraiture use.... unless you're gonna be placing the model about 30 to 50m off.... :bsmilie:
well, if have, maybe the diameter of lens will be very big, can't see you standing behind the lens...... and it thin alike a paper ;phmmm...ok.
thanks for all inputs.
i'll write to nikon and ask them produce one 85mm f1.2 mirror.
:bsmilie:
shooting full length portrait with 500mm mirror lens on a FX, background will be totally out of focus, unless the subject is standing next to a wall.Shorter focal length and fixed aperture (at around F8)..?
probably not likely to produce any desired OOF highlights..
anyway, mirror lens has a market for telephoto application because it is a much cheaper alternative to the conventional lens, hence there could be demand in spite of its limitations.
For shorter focal length, the price advantage may not be as significant, and given it's limitations ( donut OOF highlights + fixed aperature ) making it unsuitable for general use, there is probably very little demand..
shooting full length portrait with 500mm mirror lens on a FX, background will be totally out of focus, unless the subject is standing next to a wall.
the characteristic of the mirror lens are having rings effect of the out of focus highlights in the background, this is what jeanie looking for, and shorter focal length mirror means she don't need to stand far far away and using a loudhailer to direct her model.
shooting full length portrait with 500mm mirror lens on a FX, background will be totally out of focus, unless the subject is standing next to a wall.
the characteristic of the mirror lens are having rings effect of the out of focus highlights in the background, this is what jeanie looking for, and shorter focal length mirror means she don't need to stand far far away and using a loudhailer to direct her model.
AFAIK, no mirror lens shorter than 400mm, and the 400mm is at 5.6 fixed aperture, if any lens manufacture ever made mirror lens shorter than 400mm, the aperture is possible to be bigger than f5.6 too. anyway, the bokeh on FX and DX is totally different.Let's look at this issue in the context of the TS's requirement.
She's looking for short focal length mirror lens. If the lens is, say, 100mm and at F8, will the background be totally OOF? Well it depends on how far is the background, but it may not be far enough to produce the OOF "donut" highlights as so desired. The point that I mentioned is specific to TS's case, not for general mirror lens of 500mm, in which case what you say is true.
As for the 2nd point, What I'm saying is that the characteristic donuts that the TS is looking for is generally "undesirable", hence there may be little demand for it, althou in this case it is desired by the TS. If you desire for something that most pple do not desired, it is unlikely to be in the market generally.
If you want a defocus effect around the subject (but no donut rings) try the 105 or 135 AF DC lenses. That should work very well on your D 3.
AFAIK, no mirror lens shorter than 400mm, and the 400mm is at 5.6 fixed aperture, if any lens manufacture ever made mirror lens shorter than 400mm, the aperture is possible to be bigger than f5.6 too. anyway, the bokeh on FX and DX is totally different.
the out of focus ring highlight is a by product of the mirror lens, a well received one, many portrait photographers get a mirror lens just because of this.
nowadays we don't see much mirror lenses available, same as soft focus lenses, maybe because of many people think photoshop can replace anything.