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Just wondering, where to find Dobomens and/or German shepherds? Looking for a reputable shop. Thanks
You just missed the dog show at expo on Sunday. Try calling SKC to find a reputable breeder.
As an animal lover, I'll ask you to skip pet shops. Please look at adopting one from SPCA or other rehome centres first, if you can handle the commitment for one. In this way, you save a life and it's probably free! If that is not your preference, you can ask around at www.doggiesite.com for ethical and knowledgeable breeders for your prefered breeds. But be extremely careful with your wording at the website. There are many knowledgeable and helpful people there but you have to establish yourself as a responsible and caring dog owner(potential). Otherwise, you will suffer horribly. For example, based on your 2 line post here, you will be flamed in language too harsh to write haha.
Just wondering, where to find Dobomens and/or German shepherds? Looking for a reputable shop. Thanks
I don't think a shop is a good place to get a dog. Serious breeders, i.e. those that are not into it for the quick buck, probably won't sell to pet shops, but directly to the future owner so that they can make sure their puppies end up in responsible hands.
The main difference between a purebred and a mongrel is traceability of ancestry plus adherence to some arbitrary standard (which sometimes could include recommended mutilation of the animal, like declawing, or chopping of tails or ears). If you don't want a purebred dog as a prestige object, you might consider a local crossbreed which comes close to your ideal in appearance and character.
I support your move. Other than fishes, all dogs and cats at home were given to my family. Was even given a pure English breed pursian white cat who championed competitions. We let the pets roam freely within the premise. At our peak, we had 12 cats (some strays and some owned) coming for lunch and dinners, but usually one dog.
Pet lovers would know who to give to, but once they found out its meant to give to kids as Christmas/birthday present, the pet givers would halt the thought and dropped the idea of selling or giving to that family.
As for where to get for TS, other than home shelters (eg spca) or pet breeders, try ordering from pet shops as a last resort. Retailers dont like to keep much animals in the shop as it is expensive to keep them in the cage.
You can try contacting the german shepard club to see if they have any contacts for reputable and ethical breeders.
Please note that german shepards are prone to hereditary hip problems, so if you buy from a petshop, you won't know the ancestry of the pup. It may carry with it defective genes, and by the time you find out, it's too late, you would have invested love, time, money on the dog.
Please note that german shepards are prone to hereditary hip problems, so if you buy from a petshop, you won't know the ancestry of the pup. It may carry with it defective genes, and by the time you find out, it's too late, you would have invested love, time, money on the dog.
I don't think there is anything wrong trying to get a dog from a pet store.
Esp when the person already had something in mind.
Like for me, I am always on the lookout for a JRT.
I had experiences with a JRT, and lost my MOST MOST precious princess.
One of my dearest wish now is to find another JRT cause of the characteristics of a JRT which i felt other dogs (which i oso had/have) would not have.
I oso understand that i can get one from SPCA and some other org, but then I always want to have it when it's a puppy.
Esp when the person already had something in mind.
Like for me, I am always on the lookout for a JRT.
I had experiences with a JRT, and lost my MOST MOST precious princess.
One of my dearest wish now is to find another JRT cause of the characteristics of a JRT which i felt other dogs (which i oso had/have) would not have.
I oso understand that i can get one from SPCA and some other org, but then I always want to have it when it's a puppy.
Evberyone looking for a dog should realise that puppies don't stay puppies for very long. Once they are a bit older, they outlive their puppy cutesy and run the risk of being abandoned. Possibly by the same people who complain about "ageism" when they have a harder time finding a job in their 50s... A cute puppy also tends to blind people to the fact that dogs are not stuffed toys, but require long-term (~15 years) commitment (including money, e.g. for vet visits), may grow to a larger size than they can handle in the long run, require daily attention, need to be socialised, need someone to pick up their poo after them, etc.
Getting a somewhat older dog has a lot of things going for it - you get a dog that is usually socialised, is toilet-trained, and whose character is established and known. If you're working or attending school, you can leave them alone for extended periods, whereas a puppy may pretty much require someone to be at home all the time. If you're not sure yet you can commit 15 years, an older dog may also be a good start. These dogs can be just as loyal and friendly as a dog brought up by you from young.
If you buy from a shop, chances are you are supporting Singapore's infamous and unscrupulous puppy mills. It may be instructive to visit the area around Pasir Ris Farmway Drive 2 and take a close look, both at the hidden puppy factories and the "rejects"/outcasts you find nearby, either as strays or in an overcrowded shelter.
The phrase 'ethical' breeder has been used by some of the thread contributors. Usually pet stores do not follow the 'ethical' route, they sell to whoever meets their price. They usually don't screen buyers to make sure they are aware of the long term responsibilities of dog care.
I have stopped stepping into pet shops that sell dogs, cos everytime I see dogs in cages, I wonder how many will go to good homes, how many will be abandoned after they lost their 'cutesiness', how many will go back to puppy mills as breeding machines after they fail to find buyers. The worse thing is that since many people buy from pet shops, they perpetuate the indiscriminate breeding of dogs, leading to poorer gene pools. I get so sad a trip to these shops become traumatic experiences.
Pets bought from kennels are also known to be more prone to diseases. That's because all these young dogs are exposed to each other and kept in confined enviroments, sometimes before they develop sufficient immunity from certain illnesses. 'Kennel cough' is a common affliction in pet shops, that's why it's called 'kennel cough':bsmilie:
There is much much more to buying a dog than I can write; someone pointed out that German Shepherds have hereditary hip problems. My dog's breed, mini schanuzers, are known for schnauzer bumps. My friend's mini schnauzer keeps on shedding hair, and has to be put on a special diet just to avoid being botak:bsmilie: Since you like JRTs and have owned JRTs, I guess you are familiar with your breed. I just hope you help the JRT community by spending some time looking for people who care for this breed. If you need help, you can PM me and I try to point you to good people.
@ LittleWolf : it's the tie i have with my dog, that's why i want the next one (*cross finger* it's a JRT) as a puppy. When my JRT was a puppy, she was always sleeping with me. And even when she became a dog or a QUEEN, I still have this very special tie with her. When she's not happy, i would be the one, and my bed will be the one she will sleep in. Lastly, i have nothing against getting an older dog, or a dog from SPCA or any other org. In fact, i do have an older dog, around 6 years old, which was a stray. I don't want to support any puppy mills as well... but it's not easy to get a puppy, if not from a pet store. And to get the RIGHT puppy is not easy too! I spent like 4 - 6 months before i found each of my dogs.
@ bigu2fan : "I just hope you help the JRT community by spending some time looking for people who care for this breed. If you need help, you can PM me and I try to point you to good people"
I do need help!! I can't seemed to find any JRT nowadays... alot of places no longer have them i had went to one who quoted me 1.8 - 2K for one which will be imported from a breeder in Australia and at the same time informing me that I will not be able to buy one from the au breeder myself. And that's excluding the logistics charges.
And my JRT had alot of health problems as well... and she had to put down due to excessive bleeding from bone cancer, which attacked her skull... my poor baby
@ bigu2fan : "I just hope you help the JRT community by spending some time looking for people who care for this breed. If you need help, you can PM me and I try to point you to good people"
I do need help!! I can't seemed to find any JRT nowadays... alot of places no longer have them
i had went to one who quoted me 1.8 - 2K for one which will be imported from a breeder in Australia and at the same time informing me that I will not be able to buy one from the au breeder myself. And that's excluding the logistics charges.And my JRT had alot of health problems as well... and she had to put down due to excessive bleeding from bone cancer, which attacked her skull... my poor baby
Nisa: My comments are not specifically directed at you, rather at anyone considering getting a pet. But seriously, you don't need to get a puppy to forge strong bonds. Go and ask your adopted older dog on this, I'm sure (s)he will have a definite opinion on this!
There's of course nothing wrong with getting a puppy. But there's thousands of dogs in Singapore who cannot find a home just because they're a bit older or not quite purebreeds. If one can give one of them a home instead of having the puppy mills produce yet another one (and have the puppy mills create more misery and suffering as a side effect), this is IMHO a strong argument to compromise a bit on the picture of the "ideal dog" that floats around in your mind. The more people are willing to do this and prove the prejudices wrong, the more acceptable will this choice appear to others. It's basically compromising a teeny bit on your own desires for doing The Right Thing(TM).
It depends how picky you are... how do you know the dogs you don't consider wouldn't turn out to be the "right" ones? No dog (or human being, for that matter) is flawless, plus they change/evolve over time (particularly puppies!), you learn to love them with warts and all.
Most people are more concerned about their own children than a pet, and yet people are willing to accept and love their children as they are, even if they don't have the desired gender or hair colour, or may even have a genetic variance (e.g. colour blindness).
Our dog has developed a limp, probably due to some injury from when he was a puppy. Still, he is the "right" one, although he looks quite different from what we had originally envisioned. Yet I'm sure, had we taken in another dog, we would have learned to love him/her just the same.
Basically, it boils down to whether you see your pet as an object, or a living being which should be afforded the dignity of being accepted for what it is, just as you expect your dog to accept you as you are as its master.
To all who absolutely want a puppy but can compromise on the pedigree status, there's lots and lots of adorable little puppies up for adoption from various rescue organisations (see e.g. here: http://www.asdsingapore.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=8&Itemid=108). The sooner you adopt one, the sooner you free up a kennel or foster place for another dog in need.
End of sermon (again, directed at everyone, but noone in specific, so please don't feel attacked).
WOWEE! thanks guys!. anyway, i did go to the dog show, nothing much leh. have also been to those farm thingy in tampines to see dogs.
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