b&w vs color then convert to b&w

[jeanie]

is there a SIGNIFICANT difference between the 2?
if i change my settings to B&W in my cam and take the shot as oppose to shoot in color then convert via cs2.


please advise.

 

[Michael]

yes there is.
with in-camera conversion you cannot control how the readings from the red, green and blue channel are combined (the camera still reads a colour image), when you do the conversion afterwards its up to you....
that should be significant enough....

 

[jeanie]

yes there is.
with in-camera conversion you cannot control how the readings from the red, green and blue channel are combined (the camera still reads a colour image), when you do the conversion afterwards its up to you....
that should be significant enough....

so which is theoretically a better part of a bnw workflow?

 

[ExplorerZ]

so which is theoretically a better part of a bnw workflow?

of cos the 1 that gives you more control if you want result... else the simplier 1.

 

[catchlights]

there is many way and setting to convert a color image into b&w during post, so you can have a lot of flexibility of how the b&w results will be,

in camera setting, you only have one, good or no good? this is what you gonne have.

 

[catchlights]

so which is theoretically a better part of a bnw workflow?

shoot in color, convert b&w in post,
if you want lazyman work, write a action of do a channels mixer to convert b&w, than auto level it, run a auto batch processing if you have a few hundreds to covert.

you still have the original in color, can go back as and when you like to fine tune it.

 

[jeanie]

thanks, i did all BNW conversions from scott kelby,ken rockwell.
and most comments i've gotten are towards 'can be improved'...if you know what i mean.

i'm really quite discouraged.
really wonder if there's a PERFECT way to conversion.:dunno: :cry:

but i do like the comments and such.at least you guys are FRANK.:thumbsup:

 

[jopel]

2 groups of people were asked to comment on a B/W photo. One group was told that it was the work of Ansel Adams, the other group was told that this is the work of jeanie.

You can guessed the outcome.

It is not how to convert that troubled me regarding B/W photo. For years I still can't see the soul of B/W photo as many expert claimed they saw.

 

[ah.zeep]

2 groups of people were asked to comment on a B/W photo. One group was told that it was the work of Ansel Adams, the other group was told that this is the work of jeanie.

You can guessed the outcome.

It is not how to convert that troubled me regarding B/W photo. For years I still can't see the soul of B/W photo as many expert claimed they saw.

I'll bet the "work of jeanie" invoked far more posts than ansel's :bsmilie:

 

[jopel]

I'll bet the "work of jeanie" invoked far more posts than ansel's :bsmilie:

:bsmilie: :bigeyes: :bsmilie: why huh:think:

 

[jeanie]

2 groups of people were asked to comment on a B/W photo. One group was told that it was the work of Ansel Adams, the other group was told that this is the work of jeanie.

You can guessed the outcome.

It is not how to convert that troubled me regarding B/W photo. For years I still can't see the soul of B/W photo as many expert claimed they saw.

if you do one day(see the soul), please enlighten me.
i really would like to go indepth into it.

ansel adams.why the name sound so darn familiar?:dunno:

 

[jopel]

if you do one day(see the soul), please enlighten me.
i really would like to go indepth into it.

ansel adams.why the name sound so darn familiar?:dunno:

ansel adams called himself angie when he first started photography :bsmilie:

 

[agape01]

Jeanie, you don't want to know what the best solution is.

 

[jeanie]

Jeanie, you don't want to know what the best solution is.

dont talk in riddles lei.
:dunno:

 

[agape01]

dont talk in riddles lei.
:dunno:

Ok lah... I'll be blunt.

Don't shoot in digital. Best is to shoot with B&W film on a SLR and then do the entire B&W film post processing to printing the image yourself.

That will give you the best B&W image ever in terms of image quality, tonal range and contrast.

 

[jeanie]

Ok lah... I'll be blunt.

Don't shoot in digital. Best is to shoot with B&W film on a SLR and then do the entire B&W film post processing to printing the image yourself.

That will give you the best B&W image ever in terms of image quality, tonal range and contrast.

seems like it's time to conjure my f5 from it's grave...:cry:

 

[ExplorerZ]

Ok lah... I'll be blunt.

Don't shoot in digital. Best is to shoot with B&W film on a SLR and then do the entire B&W film post processing to printing the image yourself.

That will give you the best B&W image ever in terms of image quality, tonal range and contrast.

but you still need those contrast filter. :bsmilie:

 

[agape01]

but you still need those contrast filter. :bsmilie:

You're not wrong

But ultimately, look at the end results that you'll be getting provided that you do it right.

 

[Michael]

seems like it's time to conjure my f5 from it's grave...:cry:

and since you do that and have a home studio, why not create in a corner your home dark room.....

 

[ortega]

what you need is a bigger digital camera - it is called a scanner