Best thing is ask your friend to go and rent one.
borrow them old camera lor .... it doesnt make sense to borrow ppl new stuff and came back in a old condition... it just not shiok ..
D700 - 24-70mm F2.8 ED - 105mm VR2 Micro - Samyang 14mm - 50mm 1.8D - Mb 10 - SB900 - SB400
At least you are responsible enough to pay up because you are a photographer yourself.. There are some people like one of the CS member's friend who didn't understand the fuss when he returned something different from the original condition.Originally Posted by ed9119
Some people I know after one month, their new stuff become like old stuff that had been through countless war.
Cause they simply just throw into thir bag, bed or whatever when thy are not using it, without thinking it might hit something hard or sharp.
All depends on relationship with friend and how well you know they take care of OTHER PPLs STUFF.
Some folks are pretty narcissistic. They will take care of their own stuff well, but treat other ppls stuff like crap.
But if you colleague can ask to borrow an expensive newly purchased lens, it does seem either he/she treats the matter lightly or can pay of one at a whim if its damaged.
At least that would be my criteria if I wanted to borrow ppls stuff under similar circumstances.
What if I damaged it and can pay? Worst if its rare and not easily avaliable even if I can pay?
If your friends are always fine lending their stuff to you, then I think its only right to lend them.
Its your decision.
Don't really need to be ashamed of the decision.
Just say 'No' if need be.
It just let your friends know that its the line in the sand for you.
Don't think friendship is just based on lens borrowing.
If not, when something happens, it will just cause a lot more unhappiness (unless they easily pay without batting an eyelid which is possible too).
Lend ONLY if you are mentally prepared never to get it back, or to get it back in whatever condition with no strings attached and with no questions asked.
Otherwise, just politely say no.
you can buy better gear but you can't buy a better eye
I can understand TS feeling about having hard time rejecting friends and I have 3 methods to help you.
1) Next time when he asked, just close your eyes and think into the future on how you would feel if he returned it with a dent or scratch or worst off? You would be angry and pissed off, so conjure this angry emotion and say "NO"
2) Just tell him that you think the lens has focus shift and you need to do up an long extensive test before sending it to calibrate. When he saw you with the lens, just tell him it is back from calibration but you don't trust the result, so you are performing another test. Next time he sees you again, just tell him, you see some focus shift again, and wants to perform the same stupid long test again. Next time sees you again, just say still testing and you are trying something else... and sees you again, repeat from this paragraph again. It is a looping thing that will keep him away from your lens. But if he offers to try on his cam, just tell him, that you can't be using his cam if it works on his so tell him that you suck thumb, gotta do it on your cam. No matter how low is his EQ, he should be able to get your drift.
3) Be like me, give him a long "errrrrrrrrr" followed by "I don't know if it is a good idea" expression on your face. If he dosen't stand down, then go to method 1 cos he deserves it
Last edited by blurshot; 10th November 2011 at 08:13 PM.
If you have high quality friends, you never have to doubt that they will take care of it and you will get it back in mint condition. Just lend.
If you don't have quality friends, remember it is also a reflection on you.
If you want to know the standard of a person, look at the kind of friends he keeps and mixes closely with.
Sounds like a great way to turn a friend into an ex friend.
All comes down to how much you trust them to take care of your equipment and if the worst happens do you think your friendship would survive it - especially if they really don't have the capacity to pay for a replacement. That is something only you can decide.
I had managed to ruin a friends tripod once. (Bent one of the legs, it would no longer 'fold' after that, but was still usable). I managed to find an identical replacement, but he refused to take it in the end. We are still friends. (But it was a relatively cheap tripod, not a mega expensive bit of kit).
soon the negative feelings will definitely rule your heart and you'll find it hard to trust people anymore.
and that's just what is happening in singapore society
I also have another friend who always throws me his D700 and all his lenses: 24-70, 70-200 f2.8 etc but too bad, I don't know how to use Nikon. At first I dare not touch worried if it spoilt or got problem then I would be in trouble. But I guess he trusts me know how to handle his stuffs. I think he seems happy to let me use his stuffs too haha
Last edited by vlg134; 11th November 2011 at 11:47 AM.
"Lens can break.
Friendship cannot be broken." - Lao Zi.