Mirror movement too strong

[chisiang]

I'm not sure if this issue was discussed before but I couldn't find it while doing a search.

I have this very frustrated issue with the 'slamping' of the reflex mirror when the shutter was activated. The movement of the mirror was so strong that it actually caused my D70 to 'roll' like a see-saw when shooting hand held. Especially so when using the 70-200 due to the longer profile.

Any D70 owners having this issue?

[CAMEDIA]

hmm...this is interesting. Personally, I don't have this problem no matter using 70-200 with tele con or not. R u very small build or have very small hands?

To me, the mirror is so small and should not cause an impact that big like what u mentioned....roll like a see-saw?

[Wolfgang]

Originally Posted by CAMEDIA hmm...this is interesting. Personally, I don't have this problem no matter using 70-200 with tele con or not. R u very small build or have very small hands? To me, the mirror is so small and should not cause an impact that big like what u mentioned....roll like a see-saw?

A monopod might help.

[espn]

Originally Posted by CAMEDIA hmm...this is interesting. Personally, I don't have this problem no matter using 70-200 with tele con or not. R u very small build or have very small hands? To me, the mirror is so small and should not cause an impact that big like what u mentioned....roll like a see-saw?

CM: He's about the same size you are... Maybe slightly smaller... hahahah

No issues with D70 and 70-200VR (courtesy of others) as well

[Clown]

D70 mirror slap very soft liao leh..

[gnipihz]

the mirror slap? it's not that bad. maybe becasue D70 feels light?

the photo below is taken handheld just ard a few days ago cropped and adjusted levels. no USM done. (shot with D70 and 80-200mm) it's more of the technique of holding your camera and the shutter speed that you shoot at. practise more and u'll feel more at ease with it.

[smallaperture]

Originally Posted by Clown D70 mirror slap very soft liao leh..

Yes, when I switched from an F80 to the D70, I felt the same mirror slap. The F80 shutter/mirror is very soft and quiet. D70 much, much noisier. But no problem with blur image so far for me, even with long exposure, long lens or close-up.

Reason - noise and vibration caused by the mirror return, by that time, the shutter would have closed liao, so doesn't affect your pic. So, don't worry, be happy and keep shooting. If you still worry, PM me.

But don't compare with digicams or other compact cams.

[chisiang]

Hmm... kinda funny when I pick it up just now the shutter felt subtle. But yesterday the motion was really bad. I'm using fast shutter speed so the picture doesn't blur but some went out of frame!

Experienced the same thing when I was shooting on the great wall, and during the Wella hairshow. Guess maybe after holding the 'brick' for a while your hands get tired. But definitely felt the mirror movement was too much.

[Witness]

dun have such a prob....

i have a 601 which is loud and where u can really feel the flippin...
to me the mirror flip on the d70 is close to non existant..

[bernardsia]

Hey bro. The D70 is nothing compared to my Phenix and Kiev 60. Those two mirrors can cause earthquakes.

[whoelse]

Supposely no mirror vibration although annoying is capable of affecting speed lower then 1/15 according to some research. With 1/15, u will tripod mount anyway.

[Dann]

If u still worried try and compare with another D70. Maybe can ask someone to bring to next SEED.

[espn]

Why go SEED when there's NC? Come come... drop by NC tomorrow I won't be able to make it however cos I've an appt at 7.30 elsewhere. But am pretty sure some of the other folks will be

[aaronng]

If the camera actually visibly rolled, then it is not the shutter/mirror, it is your finger pressing too hard!

[chisiang]

Originally Posted by aaronng If the camera actually visibly rolled, then it is not the shutter/mirror, it is your finger pressing too hard!

I doubt so. I am very particular when it comes to presing the shutter button.

However, if you press the button too hard, the camera will roll downwards. But in my case, the camera actually roll upwards man! Very obvious when using my 70-200. When the mirror slabs up, the whole lense+camera will follow suit. The movement is roughly about 1/5 of the frame!

maybe exercise too much with my right hand while watching certain DVD liao

[CAMEDIA]

Originally Posted by chisiang I doubt so. I am very particular when it comes to presing the shutter button. However, if you press the button too hard, the camera will roll downwards. But in my case, the camera actually roll upwards man! Very obvious when using my 70-200. When the mirror slabs up, the whole lense+camera will follow suit. The movement is roughly about 1/5 of the frame! maybe exercise too much with my right hand while watching certain DVD liao

hmmm.....maybe u should change ur exercise to left hand for a while for a simple proof of concept If it still roll so much, then maybe can conclude your 70-200 got special VR function to counter the downward press.

[aaronng]

Originally Posted by chisiang I doubt so. I am very particular when it comes to presing the shutter button. However, if you press the button too hard, the camera will roll downwards. But in my case, the camera actually roll upwards man! Very obvious when using my 70-200. When the mirror slabs up, the whole lense+camera will follow suit. The movement is roughly about 1/5 of the frame! maybe exercise too much with my right hand while watching certain DVD liao

The camera body went upwards or the photo turned out aiming too high?

[chisiang]

The photo was composed but upon snapping, the mirror caused the lense to lift up and thus the picture appears to have foreground cut short. The movement is quite noticable and thus on the spot you will know liao. Bo bian reshoot again with even tighter grip.

[aaronng]

Originally Posted by chisiang The photo was composed but upon snapping, the mirror caused the lense to lift up and thus the picture appears to have foreground cut short. The movement is quite noticable and thus on the spot you will know liao. Bo bian reshoot again with even tighter grip.

Ahhhhh... I see! You are supporting the 80-200mm with your left hand, and the D70 in your right hand. Because the 80-200mm is much heavier, the weight is around the center of the lens+camera which is at your left hand. So you get a see-saw effect (remember fulcrum from physics?). Any little movement at the camera end will cause the whole camera to pivot down and the lens upwards. Is your left hand fingers positioned at the focus ring, zoom ring or tripod mount area? For this situation, I recommend your left hand fingers be at the front of the lens area, just in front of the focus ring, so any movement at the camera body is not magnified by the see saw.. Of course, it is slower because you cannot zoom quickly without having to move your hand, and your right hand will get tired quicker.

[chisiang]

Ah ha!! That explains a lot man! Should have listened to teacher in physics class...

No wonder the bicycle...