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    Default Quick opinion needed, please view this two photo!

    i just bought myself a Zeiss 21mm f2.8 on saturday

    Click link below to view full resolution:
    http://i51.tinypic.com/r873ev.jpg
    Shot at f2.8 / ISO 100 / 1/160

    http://i54.tinypic.com/1zh2sed.jpg
    Shot at f2.8 / ISO 500 / 1/20 (handheld)

    Both test photo shot at f2.8 , straight from cam (raw -> jpg), never edit

    my friend say he spotted double image on the first photo, slowly getting bad from the center.. and it is due to lens element.

    weird, I think f2.8, the DOF is shallow hence this blurring (not really double image from what I can see) is due to I shoot at wide aperture?

    myself I dun see any problem, but just want a few more opinions from others.

    Cos this lens quite costly, so if someone more experienced then me can see anything wrong from this two photos, i will need to go back to the store or service center already.
    Last edited by sinned79; 11th October 2011 at 11:25 AM.

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    Default Re: Quick opinion needed, please view this two photo!

    I don't see anything wrong. Its just the bokeh character of the lens.

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    I just see ni-sen bokeh - it means your lens doesn't have very good bokeh, also called "busy bokeh". Zeiss lenses tend to be optimized for sharpness and microcontrast rather than bokeh.

    FYI, a lot of Leica lenses tend to do badly in bokeh too - shows you how far we've actually come in improving lens design.
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    Default Re: Quick opinion needed, please view this two photo!

    Quote Originally Posted by hanzohattori View Post
    I don't see anything wrong. Its just the bokeh character of the lens.
    thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    I just see ni-sen bokeh - it means your lens doesn't have very good bokeh, also called "busy bokeh". Zeiss lenses tend to be optimized for sharpness and microcontrast rather than bokeh.

    FYI, a lot of Leica lenses tend to do badly in bokeh too - shows you how far we've actually come in improving lens design.

    thanks! ni-sen ... wow new term for me.

    hmm i bought this lens is not meant for bokeh... its to replace my 17-40 for shooting landscape and probably ocassional portrait shots.

    so will be actually shooting f8 and above most of the time.
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    Default Re: Quick opinion needed, please view this two photo!

    Nothing wrong leh. Bokeh effect only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinned79 View Post
    hmm i bought this lens is not meant for bokeh... its to replace my 17-40 for shooting landscape and probably ocassional portrait shots.
    Well there you go. If you don't expect good bokeh from a lens, then it's ok. Be happy and keep shooting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaoken View Post
    Nothing wrong leh. Bokeh effect only.
    No such thing as "bokeh effect".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    Well there you go. If you don't expect good bokeh from a lens, then it's ok. Be happy and keep shooting.
    haha me just having a "typical consumer bought bad copy" that of effect :x

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinned79 View Post
    haha me just having a "typical consumer bought bad copy" that of effect :x
    Nope. It's just the lens design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    Nope. It's just the lens design.
    icic...

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    Default Re: Quick opinion needed, please view this two photo!

    my observation on first image, bcos of the flower type, looks like double vision only
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    No such thing as "bokeh effect".
    Oops.. Just now was busy.. Never check what I typed.

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