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    Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon88
    I do not understand all the artificial "hysteria" over the iPhone.

    For your info:
    All parts together cost about 85€ (120U$)
    Assembly take place in China and cost about 3,60€ (5U$) per iPhone.

    Apple selling price = 650€ ( 880U$)
    (exch. €/U$ 1.40)

    The worker in China get paid a pittance and are used by Apple extremely exploited!!!!

    ??????
    Wow...u so clear on the pricing...

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    Such stuff is happening not only with apple dude but everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by cannedpineapples View Post
    I don't mean that. I just meant there has been no problems for me.

    Besides, I doubt "no viruses" will be listed within the top 5 drivers for the market segments whom Apple and the Android makers are primarily targeting.
    I'm using my LG Optimus 2X. It's a dual-core phone. Don't have any major problems.
    Have not heard of virus related problems too.

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    Who will actualy spend time engineering viruses that affects phones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudgecakes View Post
    Who will actualy spend time engineering viruses that affects phones?
    Why not? It's an easy way to access your email credentials, facebook account, phone numbers, credit card/paypal details, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae

    Why not? It's an easy way to access your email credentials, facebook account, phone numbers, credit card/paypal details, etc.
    Haha but they need a foolproof way of transmitting the virus which mobile phones dun have cuz seriously? Who opens suspicious emails usig their phones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudgecakes View Post
    Haha but they need a foolproof way of transmitting the virus which mobile phones dun have cuz seriously? Who opens suspicious emails usig their phones?
    The same people who open suspicious emails using their computers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edutilos-

    The same people who open suspicious emails using their computers.
    Point taken haha. Emails such as Viagra etc etc....
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    My iPhone 3G still smooth smooth. Wish it accidentally slip to the toilet bowl or my house window... Fall down few times when walking on street, NOT YET SPOILT!

    When new, you protect it with all kinds of things so it won't even have a scratch. When old already, you hope it fail faster so you can buy a new one...
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    For once I am android to iPhone convert and never look back. U ask me why? Because there is one and only apple but there are dozen of androids.....similar to windows vs Mac......sure.... hardware and benchmark wise they are miles ahead but tell that to a die hard Mac user.....thats the reason why apple top Exxon as world most valuable company

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon88
    I do not understand all the artificial "hysteria" over the iPhone.

    For your info:
    All parts together cost about 85€ (120U$)
    Assembly take place in China and cost about 3,60€ (5U$) per iPhone.

    Apple selling price = 650€ ( 880U$)
    (exch. €/U$ 1.40)

    The worker in China get paid a pittance and are used by Apple extremely exploited!!!!

    ??????
    Where is the R&D cost ? R&D isn't cheap. It's intangible yet it cost way more than your product. How about the cost to hire some of the best engineers, designers, consultants that rope together and deliver the product that you see today ? How about the cost to bring you upgrades and new features in both software and hardware almost every yearly ? I don't see a lot of companies able to deliver that this kind of rate ? Again cost.

    How about the infra-structure cost ? When you are enjoying the Post Notification on your iPhone, where do you think the infrastructure comes from ? Where is Android post notification system ? What is the cost to run a high tech data centre that Apple is delivering behind the scene ? How much do you think you are willing to pay for 99.999% uptime.

    How about Marketing cost ? Why do you hear about Apple product so much and so fierce ? Is it only just hearsay, or perhaps Apple hired some of the best marketing company that charge them heavily to deliver those interesting video clips and advertisement you see around ? Which another company comes near ?

    Branding cost ? Is branding free or just because you are popular therefore you are famous ? This involves PR cost. PR is not free. PR is not something your CEO and COO and CTO and all those C class does. It again done by professional PR companies.

    How about the so well know Apple stores online ? How about this cost ? How about the Apple customer officers that are working behind the scene ? How about this cost ?

    How about maintenance and support cost ? Do you think someone will be there waiting for you to report about your iPhone is not working or having drop lines in the middle of a conversation ? It's not just Singapore that you are talking about.

    How about logistic cost ? Which another company offer the kind of delivery that you are getting now ? Think about it.

    How about Apple Store cost and the high standard layout and furniture and design ? Do you think it's done by some nobody knows freelancer whom design the shop ? How many companies store out there have guidelines of the standard you get from Apple Inc ? Such as lights must be 4100K in temperature all out ? One spoilt lamps and all lamps redeliver ? How many companies out there are willing to spend the money to request osram re-evaluate all the lamps for temperature consistency for every batches that are for Apple ?

    How often you hear about WWDC and conferences as often as what you get from Apple Inc ? Where do you think all these cost comes from ? How many of the software company provide the kind of platform that you are experiencing from Apple ?

    How much do you think you want to pay for Apple App store ? Is the hosting and platform free ? Think about the ebooks, the music and video collections.

    How about component procurement cost ? Do you think Samsung owe Apple a favor to make sure they get sufficient supply of LCD when Japan is in crisis ? Do you think signing long term contract with these companies that they themselves are also product manufacturer doesn't come with a cost ? Think again.

    After you calculate all these cost, then you mark up and put a price tag on Apple products

    Now when you look at Android ? Who is Android ? It's google platform, so why you mention about Samsung ? HP ? Acer ? HTC ? Sony ? and so forth ? I think the list just goes on into even companies and brands not heard of. Where is the convergence ? Where is the standard to maintain ?
    Are you aware of how much HTC has pour in in User interface design from the vanilla Android ?

    Do you see why Microsoft need to have another platform of their own ?

    When you see Android platform, which company you relate to most ? Why ? When you see IOS platform, which brand comes to your mind ? Do you feel this doesn't require cost to achieve ?

    We have to be realistic, today if you are a nobody photographer, it makes a difference when you use a high end Nikon or Cannon camera in front of your client. If you use other XXX brand, will your client view you differently ? Of course, this can go on and on about it's not the gear, it's the photographer and his skill. Your client knows that ? Your client knows you are going to deliver superior quality with your XYZ brand camera, which could be way better than using a Nikon or Canon camera ? A lot of photographers here build their name bit by bit and it is not CHEAP. Ask them yourself how much they went through to build their reputation and branding which is more fragile than the glass in the lens.

    Therefore don't be narrow minded. Look at the big picture, don't just look at a single product and determine its price. The math is not difficult, but the list is long and vague.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fudgecakes View Post
    Haha but they need a foolproof way of transmitting the virus which mobile phones dun have cuz seriously? Who opens suspicious emails usig their phones?
    Guess what ? The fact that virus do spread is the very truth that some "fool" are doing it. Besides, there is something called malware. You don't have to open anything to get infected, read more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Kahuna View Post
    For once I am android to iPhone convert and never look back. U ask me why? Because there is one and only apple but there are dozen of androids.....similar to windows vs Mac......sure.... hardware and benchmark wise they are miles ahead but tell that to a die hard Mac user.....thats the reason why apple top Exxon as world most valuable company
    Now. That's ONE satisfied customer, isn't it ?
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    Wahh. Kenna lectured everywhere today haha.
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    wonder why 90% of the world is using Windows?

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    my iphone 3Gs is falling apart (very significant cracks, volume buttons came out, home button going insensitive, lagging SIGNIFICANTLY), no reason not to upgrade haha
    canon fan boy ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Kwok View Post
    Guess what ? The fact that virus do spread is the very truth that some "fool" are doing it. Besides, there is something called malware. You don't have to open anything to get infected, read more
    True. Virus is the old ways of doing harm. Today, there are many ways to harm smartphones without having to open a files.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon88 View Post
    I do not understand all the artificial "hysteria" over the iPhone.

    For your info:
    All parts together cost about 85 (120U$)
    Assembly take place in China and cost about 3,60 (5U$) per iPhone.

    Apple selling price = 650 ( 880U$)
    (exch. /U$ 1.40)

    The worker in China get paid a pittance and are used by Apple extremely exploited!!!!

    ??????
    it is not just the material cost what.

    if it is only material, then Windows should be free as it is 0 and 1 bit and bytes only which is non material. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by JillValentine View Post
    wonder why 90% of the world is using Windows?
    That's why it's changing now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Kwok View Post
    That's why it's changing now.
    Windows is too big to drop. Even though more people using Mac but every Mac users will still install Windows. So Windows still win, even if you use Mac or PC

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