25th October 2004, 01:38 AM
wah ... cOOl MAN ...
yaya i tHInk i shOUld find My stYlE OF sHootinG difFerent fROm tHE mAIn phoTogrApher...
wah ... see u guy taLK hOR ... waH ... poWer ...
i will BUy the T mAX 400 MAN....
I tHInk 10 BUCks iS eNOugh MAN ... lol...
i TaKE liAO hoR ... i gO develop lIAO dEN sHOW you PPl ... of COs shOW thoSe niCE nice ONE lah ... lol ... i scaREd aLL noT nICe ... lol
25th October 2004, 07:52 AM
You were invited as a guest, go there as a guest, I'm sure they've already hired the appropriate official photographer. One thing I feel personally cannot stand is having additional photographers if I'm the main photographer. Gets in my way and irritating when snatching the couple's attention and being a DOP (Director of Photography).
Originally Posted by Eboon
Unless you're hired as an official photographer... else don't bother about taking images.
10 bucks is only enough for 2 rolls of T-Max400. Developing is about another $5-6 per roll. Printing will cost you about $60 per full roll of 4R prints IIRC.
Originally Posted by Eboon
25th October 2004, 08:27 AM
Originally Posted by espn
Eboon - from what u said here, seems like you're too eager to "show off" your new hobby than to take pics. It also appears that you're not good enough to be a candid photographer. Do try to brush up on your aperatures & shutters & ISOs 1st before trying to impress someone with nice pictures.
Since your direct family (parents/grandparents/brothers) not going, so is there anyone to control you when you get too disorderly? In my opinion, I think you should just stand back and let the main photographer do his duty. The last thing a photographer needs is a kid wrestling with him to be in front of the couple.
However if U still intend to shoot, do try to take pics of the relatives, the small objects, anything else that most people may not have noticed. E.g.: expressions of the parents...
The 1 and only thing you should never give the couple is a bad impression.
25th October 2004, 09:22 AM
25th October 2004, 10:24 AM
I did it before
I remembered I shot my first wedding with almost the same set up as you. I was using a EOS300 with Tamron 28-200 f3.8-5.6 and built-in flash! Even as a back-up photographer, its a disastrous set-up! Maybe I can share my experience.
For the day event, you may need about 3-4 rolls of ISO400 films, get 1-2 more spare. Because you are using built-in flash, be mindful of the hard, black shadow (sure have one) cause by your len and lens hood, so you have to work in your "crop factor". What I did was, ask the lab to scan into CD and recrop all the images. As a back-up photographer, just shoot the "side stories", like relative chatting with couple, brothers resting or smoking outside the house, the auntie that hold the tea ceremmony, the sisters giggling and whispering to each others' ears about a cute guy, enjoying the buffet, the driver of the bridal car etc. Just don't shoot what the main photographer shoot.
For the night, prepare 3 rolls of ISO1600 or ISO3200 film, use the remaining ISO400 films to shoot the reception before the dinner, the prep for the dinner, people discussing about the schedule, people seeing the photos of the couple etc. When the dinner starts, change to ISO3200 film to shoot people eating, chatting, waiter serving, guys pouring each other with beer etc. Don't shoot those table to table group photos, let the main photographer shoot
At the end of the dinner, shoot the groom's drunken face, shoot the empty ballroom, after event like punishment of the groom by the brothers etc.
My first shots' result is not that bad. In fact, after a lot of encouragement from friends that saw the photos, I took a course with Stanley Lim Colour Centre for wedding shoot. Now I free lance as a wedding photographer, but of course, not with my EOS300 and Tamron 28-200 anymore lah.
Hope this help and enjoy yourself!
ps: remember the shadow of the lens cause by your built-in flash.
25th October 2004, 11:19 AM
something wrong with your keyboard?
Originally Posted by Eboon
25th October 2004, 11:23 AM
25th October 2004, 12:35 PM
Been following the thread... siao liao, haven been invited as a photographer for a friend's wedding... think due to the poor iso performance of prosumers... i'll be very limited in capability... Maybe i'll bring along a film SLR with some high ISO film for the night...
25th October 2004, 12:40 PM
25th October 2004, 03:39 PM
Agree with SniperD, also if unsure of speed and aperture setting, ask main photogapher also. I'm sure they'll help.
Originally Posted by SniperD
25th October 2004, 05:36 PM
lol... i hope the photographer is friendly... hope is my relative's friends or what....
pray pray mAN
KIND photograher ... lol ...
next week i will be shOOt ... LOL
25th October 2004, 07:52 PM
hmmmm...i did my cousin's wedding lately too....though he already had a photog packaged.... but my case was slightly diff...he told me to shoot for him too.....so i happily went there and played backup....the only duplicity in shots was the table shots...when he wanted extra digital copy..or rather my other cousins wanted digital copy...haha...
for ya case...y dun u ask ya relative if he's cool wif u shooting and all...black and white is fun...but its very diff to use if its ya first try.....u gotta tink in tones...not colours...
25th October 2004, 09:22 PM
25th October 2004, 09:35 PM
yup....can try out the pencil filters on ya bnw prints in photoshop too...best is take the photo then process and scan but dun print...do ya editin then print..
27th October 2004, 02:38 PM
jus asking hor ... the kodak Tmax 400 B+W ... mean ... Black and white colour only?
27th October 2004, 02:51 PM
27th October 2004, 02:58 PM
27th October 2004, 06:11 PM
27th October 2004, 10:21 PM
if u want colour u can try this thing called hand painting of bnw film.....
can create a similar if not exact effect on photoshop...colours will come out soft and the way u want it..
27th October 2004, 10:28 PM
Either way, my dear friend, he's going to spend a lot of time painting.
Originally Posted by Witness
If he paints on real prints, his room is going to smell of the paints that he used. (And he's probably going to die from the fumes)
If he does it the digital way, he should read one of the recent issues of PhotoI. There was an article about it, I think. (Once again, I thank d7t3 for passing me PhotoI)
The process is still going to be tough, you know.