A photosession : Toyota Supra

[marcwang]

Hey Guys,
This is one of my first car shoots, and I must agree that it's not up to expectations. Its really easier said then done. Without a ND filter, its really hard to slow down the shutter. And the location, wasnt the best choice. BUt still, here's my efforts.










I just realise there is a grammatical error ...argh! its already jpegged

[marcwang]

Some comments pls !

[sehsuan]

nice packaging.

[r32]

Second the remark on the nice packaging.

The panning shots of the Supra, the whites on the body seem a little washed out, over-exposed? I rather felt that with the top left picture of the car travelling in one direction, the other one in the right corner should be one of a different angle, and travelling right to left, for some visual balance of the whole picture.

I did like the closeups of the interior, the lighting tones and shallow depth of field works for me.

Two thumbs up on the layout though. You should be designing posters, or coffee table picture books.

[Rev]

whoa. old skoooooooool.

Dude, you've set the bar pretty high for yourself, don't U think? Must be hard to maintain it

Cover - very nice emphasis on the 'square logoless toyota' badge. The line leads the eye towards the top left hand corner but there seems to be a sudden discontinuity 2/3rds along the line. And... any consideration of less bokeh to reveal alittle more of the extinct square pop-up headlight? Being a design 'must-have' for cars back in the 80's.. would be nice to see a little more. I remember an article somewhere abt the chic-ness or sportscar-ness in cars with this type of headlights

Panning - kinda iffy, think the left hand pic filling the whole page would be more enticing. Maybe it's just me, feel that panning shots look better at a larger size.

Pics 3 to 6, perfect.

So...can your friend drift or burn some rubber?

[Jed]

Hmm, I thought the interior stuff was well done, the design good, what I felt let it down was the exterior stuff; in particular the 2nd and 3rd "slides" I thought were very average. But more nice stuff.

No no, the A3 is next

(For Marc: I'm still discovering the car... depending on your view of driving, this one drives more like a conventional petrol car which is strange - ie it needs revving, but drive it hard and put your foot down, and whooee...)

[2100]

Pretty nice shots. Well i am no pro in this area, all works for me.

Fwah....still got MkIII running around. Aussie?

Check out some MkIVs.

Busa, bored 1400cc, NOSed, vs MkIV.
http://www.racingflix.com/getvideo.asp?v=868

[Zplus]

Page 2 cropping is off. Doesn't work.
The rest are pretty ok. Just my 2 cents.

[marcwang]

Thanks for your comments and kind words. I am disappointed with the panning shots as well...... but somehow I didnt know how to get something better. ANd the interior shots werent special either. Anyone with a very largish aperture lens could do it. BUt oh well....

But more to come perhaps.

(Jed: )

[Jed]

Actually, while this doesn't solve your panning problems, the fact is that every single car brochure I've looked at (and I've looked at a few ), the panning is always done in PS. More control (although sometimes completely artificial) and better preservation of the detail of the car.

[marcwang]

2 more panning shots which were better composed, but less sharp than the above. Just for the record.





Somehow the colours just arent attractive. Could it be the time of the day ? Not sure.

[sehsuan]

1st pan:

flat colours, probably because of cloud/tree cover? no visual "punch".

2nd pan:

blown highlights aplenty, may be better to have some sunlight peeking behind the trees to show say, maybe only the face of the driver in the sun etc etc...

[ZeusS]

Originally Posted by Jed Actually, while this doesn't solve your panning problems, the fact is that every single car brochure I've looked at (and I've looked at a few ), the panning is always done in PS. More control (although sometimes completely artificial) and better preservation of the detail of the car.

Jed,

Have to disagree with you that EVERY car panning shot is PSed. Car photography is one of my field of work and I must say, yes, some of the works you see in brochures have been re-touched or souped up to make the feeling of speed even more. BUT, alot, if not most of the time, they are done under controlled situation.

Marc,

Good work, infact all are well except for (you guessed it) the panning stuff A tip for you, meter for the white on the car. what seem to be on your shots is that the scene looks well metered, but the car's seems to be over due to the fact that it's white. Time of the day is good cuz it's in the evening isn't it?

Keep it up!

[glennyong]

i tot it was the Supra that was the same model of the movie : The Fast The Furious.. haha.. got so excited and saw this... great pics... but when i look closer.. the Supra here and the Supra on screen looks so different..

maybe someone outside can post some tricked out Supras (new one yah)?? hahahaha....

and some Celicas to show us ... hahahahahhahaa......

nice pic

[destiny_star]

hey.. really great effort on ur 1st try..

i'm sure with more opportunities in future.. u'll do a superb job.. dan in the end it's u whom we need to ask for advice liao.. hehe..

cheers..

[Jed]

Originally Posted by ZeusS Have to disagree with you that EVERY car panning shot is PSed.

Read what I said. I never said EVERY car panning shot is PSed. I said every one *I've seen* has been PSed.

BUT, alot, if not most of the time, they are done under controlled situation.

Agreed. Controlled in the studio, or stationary on location, and then PSed to get the movement in.

Again, that is not to say "EVERY" (emphasis from original) car panning shot is PSed.

[ZeusS]

Originally Posted by Jed Read what I said. I never said EVERY car panning shot is PSed. I said every one *I've seen* has been PSed. BUT, alot, if not most of the time, they are done under controlled situation. Agreed. Controlled in the studio, or stationary on location, and then PSed to get the movement in. Again, that is not to say "EVERY" (emphasis from original) car panning shot is PSed.

Jed,

You said that you had seen a few, which can sometimes mean you had seen quite a bit, which can mean quite a fair bit

When I say controlled, I do not mean that they are taken stationary, then PSed. The cars are still moving, and the shots are still panned, but at a managable speed.

[Jed]

Originally Posted by ZeusS You said that you had seen a few, which can sometimes mean you had seen quite a bit, which can mean quite a fair bit

Right. And you said every. Which is every.

The cars are still moving, and the shots are still panned, but at a managable speed.

Serious question, this is not condescending, insulting, etc. But what would be the purpose/advantage of shooting a pan at a manageable speed, as opposed to stationary?

[ZeusS]

Well, there's so much PS can do for you. Like you said, you can tell that they have been PSed. To the trained eye, a panning effect done in PS will always be different front one done even under controlled environment.

What is the difference you asked. Controlled environment doesn't mean anything less than a well coordinated shoot. If we should all shoot cars from stationary and then PS motions into the photographs. Then maybe car photographers should all be investing in a high resolution consumer camera that takes very SHARP photos instead of investing tens of thousands in professional equipment and then PS whichever motions they desire.

Still don't get it? I know you do a fair bit of of sports photography, Jed. So let me try this, "Why bother to go to a rugby game then?" Just get the boys boys out for a session in the studio and PS the background and crowds in, and oh yes, don't forget the balls too!

Hope you see where I am coming from. Cheers!

[Jed]

No I'm still not truth be told. I suspect you might be talking about panning shots in car magazines. In which case, aside from the fundamental incompatibility, I have no objections to what you're saying.