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    Default Opinion Seeking: Cropped Body, have a 17-50mm F2.8, considering UWA + 85mm F1.8...

    Hi guys,

    I'm seeking an opinion from the pros out here who has more experience here than me. =)

    I currently own a 40D + Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 (a very good copy too)

    I should here say that I am on a limited budget!

    I am considering getting a 85mm, sell the 17-50, and then get something perhaps 12-24? or a UWA

    1) Could you guys recommend a UWA that would cost be below 600, I perfectly ok with second hands, but I don't really have time to keep trading and trying.

    2) Would I lose out in terms of versatility if I make this change?

    3) I could work with any other suggestions that may be more versatile, I prefer to have a fast n good portrait lens in my setup. Budget for lenses MUST BE under 1k max.


    Type of photography plans:

    I don't major in photography, but I sometimes shoot events as a freelance photographer (rare now unfortunately, time constrains).

    I will have to be a blogshop photographer on-and-off as some of my relatives and friends own blogshops.

    I plan to direct and have my friends help me shoot my pre-wedding pictures (budget constrains unfortunately!) with my set. Not going into wedding industry though.

    Personally my interest is in portraits.

    I will be using my camera for travels in the future (2 years later at least) as my gf likes traveling. I have little traveling experience unfortunately.


    Based on the above, what will you guys recommend?
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    Default Re: Opinion Seeking: Cropped Body, have a 17-50mm F2.8, considering UWA + 85mm F1.8..

    erm... what contributes to your intention of selling your tammy 17-50? It's a good lens for a cropped body.

    Since your interest is in portraits, within $500, you can get the 85mm F1.8.

    As for UWA, although you stated budget below $600, but I would still recommend you to go for either tokina 11-16 or Canon 10-22.

    Won't recommend you to sell your 17-50 as you mentioned that your GF likes travelling. 17-50 can be considered a good walkabout lens which probably will stay on your 40D most of the time as compared with UWA or 85mm during traveling...
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    Default Re: Opinion Seeking: Cropped Body, have a 17-50mm F2.8, considering UWA + 85mm F1.8..

    Hm, Probably budget constrains will contribute to the intention of changing the 17-50mm, IF i do want a UWA.

    Canon 10-22 will definitely bust budget, else it might be a clear choice.

    I'm just wondering if getting a slightly wider lens will increase my perspectives, and hopefully 22 or 24mm will be able to cover the general shots.

    To be honest I am feeling a bit skeptical about that.. thus I'm seeking what others think... I've heard of many people travelling with UWA + tele, I'm not sure if the rationale will work with me.
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    Default Re: Opinion Seeking: Cropped Body, have a 17-50mm F2.8, considering UWA + 85mm F1.8..

    Would you consider a Tokina 12-24 f/4, Canon 50/1.8 and 85/1.8?

    12-24 is quite versatile and I would guess that you could make do with it for a lot of shots.
    Especially when stopped down to f/5.6 or f/8, I do find it to be as sharp as the 11-16. All this subjective of course

    Price of 12-24 2nd hand should be around the $500-550 mark.
    For travel I prefer the UWA + tele zoom (eg. 55-200 or 55-250). Small and light and not too expensive either.
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    Default Re: Opinion Seeking: Cropped Body, have a 17-50mm F2.8, considering UWA + 85mm F1.8..

    Sigma's 10-20mm (older version) might fit your budget for UWA. I also dun suggest you to let go of your 17-50mm F/2.8.
    As for the 85mm, what I do is to save more for the 1.4 version instead of the 1.8. If you are not in a rush, you might want to do that too.
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    Default Re: Opinion Seeking: Cropped Body, have a 17-50mm F2.8, considering UWA + 85mm F1.8..

    Quote Originally Posted by Cowseye View Post
    Sigma's 10-20mm (older version) might fit your budget for UWA. I also dun suggest you to let go of your 17-50mm F/2.8.
    As for the 85mm, what I do is to save more for the 1.4 version instead of the 1.8. If you are not in a rush, you might want to do that too.
    If I'm not wrong, there's no Canon 85/1.4
    They have the 85/1.8 and the 85/1.2 L, which costs wayyyyyy more
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    Default Re: Opinion Seeking: Cropped Body, have a 17-50mm F2.8, considering UWA + 85mm F1.8..

    I had the 85/f1.8 before and I must say it's a good budget lens for portrait. My copy was tack sharp at wide open but I sold the lens lately because the purple fringing was intolerable. I had to stop down about 2 stops before I can get rid of some of the CA. Since I can't use it at wide open, then it totally defeats the purpose of having the lens.

    As for the 17-50, I suggest you keep it because of it's useable zoom range and at 50mm, it can make a good portrait lens too.

    UWA as some had suggested, 10-22 is the best choice if not the 11-16 is a good alternative too.

    For the record, my combi was 10-22 + 17-55 + 85/f1.8, before I sold off the latter to another hobbyist.

    I will advise you to get either the 10-22 or 85 first and save for the other one. You'll appreciate this decision in time to come.

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    Default Re: Opinion Seeking: Cropped Body, have a 17-50mm F2.8, considering UWA + 85mm F1.8..

    Maybe I should add another question to ask... Besides landscape uses, will the difference between a UWA and the 17-50mm be a big deal of difference? From a photographic point of view that is, I know the angle is much wider.

    What do you guys use UWA for other than landscapes.
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    Default Re: Opinion Seeking: Cropped Body, have a 17-50mm F2.8, considering UWA + 85mm F1.8..

    Quote Originally Posted by ombre View Post
    Maybe I should add another question to ask... Besides landscape uses, will the difference between a UWA and the 17-50mm be a big deal of difference? From a photographic point of view that is, I know the angle is much wider.

    What do you guys use UWA for other than landscapes.
    same like u im using tamron 17-50 i supposed, i use this 17-50 for almost every purpose, since i onli have this lens, i do quite a bit of landscape, i tink 17-50 can still be used for the time being, but its a matter of time before i get a UWA for myself to use...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra

    If I'm not wrong, there's no Canon 85/1.4
    They have the 85/1.8 and the 85/1.2 L, which costs wayyyyyy more
    Ooooo ok. Haha, I'm not a canon follower. Only know a bit of what's on the other side of the river.
    Maybe a sigma one?
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    Default Re: Opinion Seeking: Cropped Body, have a 17-50mm F2.8, considering UWA + 85mm F1.8..

    Quote Originally Posted by ombre View Post
    Maybe I should add another question to ask... Besides landscape uses, will the difference between a UWA and the 17-50mm be a big deal of difference? From a photographic point of view that is, I know the angle is much wider.

    What do you guys use UWA for other than landscapes.
    Difference between 12mm and 17mm is quite pronounced
    UWA not solely restricted to landscape use. In fact, any scenario where extreme wideness and/or exaggerated perspective (when you go close to subject with UWA) desired, is a good candidate
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    Default Re: Opinion Seeking: Cropped Body, have a 17-50mm F2.8, considering UWA + 85mm F1.8..

    Quote Originally Posted by Cowseye View Post
    Ooooo ok. Haha, I'm not a canon follower. Only know a bit of what's on the other side of the river.
    Maybe a sigma one?
    hahaha yes

    Siggy is gooooood, from what I hear
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra

    Difference between 12mm and 17mm is quite pronounced
    UWA not solely restricted to landscape use. In fact, any scenario where extreme wideness and/or exaggerated perspective (when you go close to subject with UWA) desired, is a good candidate
    Interior and building structure are good examples of it's usage. Although a tilt shift lens will be better for buildings..
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    Default Re: Opinion Seeking: Cropped Body, have a 17-50mm F2.8, considering UWA + 85mm F1.8..

    Quote Originally Posted by ombre View Post
    Maybe I should add another question to ask... Besides landscape uses, will the difference between a UWA and the 17-50mm be a big deal of difference? From a photographic point of view that is, I know the angle is much wider.

    What do you guys use UWA for other than landscapes.
    1mm difference at the wide/ultra wide angle will give a bigger impact than at telephoto end.

    UWA can also be used for architectural photos and for wacky portraits.

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