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    Hello there,

    I believe to all people that are looking at this has a passion in photography.. but how many of you guys out there would actually pursuit a Bachelor Degree in Photography before heading of for your Careers in this field?
    Would it actually make much of any difference? Or is your portfolio that matters?
    What more opportunities will you see by getting a Bachelor Degree In Photography?
    Is there anyone pursuit one right now?

    Thanks for all the replies.

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    I am not a pro and these are my $0.02 about paper qualification and the profession. Photographer, like chef is a skill intensive profession. Producing a great result is very dependent on your skill and experience rather than the academic acronyms after your name. Having said this, I am sure there are numerous renowned professional trained photographers out there. A professional qualification would certainly comes in handly to enhance your image/portfolio. But if you are intending to write books or pursue an academic career, I would say it is essential.

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    A degree in Photography is not only to boost your resume. It is a chance for you to learn the techniques, learn from fellow and great photographers, and give you a chance to live and breathe photography. But like in any school, whether you really put what you learn into practice or make it a lifestyle is what counts in the end. Just like going to art school will not necessarily make you a good artist. Knowing works from the masters inside out, doesn't necessarily make you a good photographer.

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    I 2nd to this. Don't take the paper too literally. The environment that it offers also gives extra leverage over just pure roaming around, especially in the arena I work in. Academic environments provide insight to what is the most up to date and future roadmap for a faculty and sometimes it takes just a leap to be at the frontier of the industry.

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    A degree in Photography is not only to boost your resume. It is a chance for you to learn the techniques, learn from fellow and great photographers, and give you a chance to live and breathe photography. But like in any school, whether you really put what you learn into practice or make it a lifestyle is what counts in the end. Just like going to art school will not necessarily make you a good artist. Knowing works from the masters inside out, doesn't necessarily make you a good photographer.
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    There is a degree..? In sg..? had no idea! Very cool.
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    There are a few famous international awards winning photographers who have no batchelor degree in photography. One even started as an assistant in a bridal shop after dropped out from school. So what do you think?
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    I think they rip what they sow. Have you interview them, who knows they will tell you that "Hey my in my days, there is nothing called degree. You mean they have such a thing now. Darn it, I think my life will be a lot easier if there is a degree and it is fortunate for the youngsters nowadays because they get recognition at younger age. Unlike us, we slog like a cow..."
    Of course, I can't be sure that's what they will say. It's just an assumption. But if all roads lead to rome, why choose the one that is harder to walk ? Not unless you enjoy the harder journey and take it as a challenge. right ?

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    There are a few famous international awards winning photographers who have no batchelor degree in photography. One even started as an assistant in a bridal shop after dropped out from school. So what do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Kwok View Post
    I think they rip what they sow. Have you interview them, who knows they will tell you that "Hey my in my days, there is nothing called degree. You mean they have such a thing now. Darn it, I think my life will be a lot easier if there is a degree and it is fortunate for the youngsters nowadays because they get recognition at younger age. Unlike us, we slog like a cow..."
    Of course, I can't be sure that's what they will say. It's just an assumption. But if all roads lead to rome, why choose the one that is harder to walk ? Not unless you enjoy the harder journey and take it as a challenge. right ?
    Yes, I know the one who was an assistant in a bridal shop. He is very young, only 24 years old now, but already famous in the world.
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    Then I'm extremely glad the end of photography is still far ahead. Well it's getting kinda confusing here. Do you mean that since we have one young elite that is famous at the age of 24 years, and therefore there is little meaning to get a photography degree as part of a photographer career path ?

    I suppose this is subjective and ultimately up to oneself right ? For someone I care, I will advice him/her to do so, because I personally feel there is nothing wrong to spend some time in a university to widen your knowledge in an academic environment. He/She will have plenty of time in the future to work hard in the society to gain real working experience. Some might think otherwise, but that's some strangers I don't know.

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    Yes, I know the one who was an assistant in a bridal shop. He is very young, only 24 years old now, but already famous in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Kwok View Post
    Then I'm extremely glad the end of photography is still far ahead. Well it's getting kinda confusing here. Do you mean that since we have one young elite that is famous at the age of 24 years, and therefore there is little meaning to get a photography degree as part of a photographer career path ?

    I suppose this is subjective and ultimately up to oneself right ? For someone I care, I will advice him/her to do so, because I personally feel there is nothing wrong to spend some time in a university to widen your knowledge in an academic environment. He/She will have plenty of time in the future to work hard in the society to gain real working experience. Some might think otherwise, but that's some strangers I don't know.
    Don't get me wrong. There are always people thinking that getting a degree is a faster route to success. It's pretty common in this society, not only in photography but every industry.

    I just mean that there are other alternatives to reach the "goal" other than investing thousands or a few hundred thousands of money to get a degree in photography. How about the people who can't afford to pay for studying the degree? So degree is just one of the way that you may be able to take to make photography as a career, rather than an easy route. If you can't afford the school fees for the degree, there are still other ways to make your dream come true. It's a fair game. As long as you have the passion and determination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    A degree in Photography is not only to boost your resume. It is a chance for you to learn the techniques, learn from fellow and great photographers, and give you a chance to live and breathe photography. But like in any school, whether you really put what you learn into practice or make it a lifestyle is what counts in the end. Just like going to art school will not necessarily make you a good artist. Knowing works from the masters inside out, doesn't necessarily make you a good photographer.
    That's right. I attended a workshop by a great photographer not long ago. During the workshop, many participants asked the photographer what are the camera settings to achieve the great shots. They followed the same camera settings but still couldn't make the same great shots. Photography is not like physics or chemistry. Throw in same ingredients like what studied from the books won't necessary bring out the great result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikonriana
    Hello there,

    I believe to all people that are looking at this has a passion in photography.. but how many of you guys out there would actually pursuit a Bachelor Degree in Photography before heading of for your Careers in this field?
    Would it actually make much of any difference? Or is your portfolio that matters?
    What more opportunities will you see by getting a Bachelor Degree In Photography?
    Is there anyone pursuit one right now?

    Thanks for all the replies.
    Academic paper do add some weight to your recognition and profile.

    But like in many arts, photography is a very visual result of work. Ppl can see your work and they will know whether you got substance or not.

    So to me, both runs concurrently. U need both to go far in this industry.

    But if only given one choice of the two, I rather go for the quality of work. Paper comes second.

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    IMHO, shooting for arts and shooting for money(commercial) are different. The concept and skills required are quite different...as in what looks good to the client(and any laymen) might be unacceptable to the artist. A photo that is artistically sound and correct, might be crap to the client. Just my opinion after observing the works of some art students at a local uni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewbieInCS
    IMHO, shooting for arts and shooting for money(commercial) are different. The concept and skills required are quite different...as in what looks good to the client(and any laymen) might be unacceptable to the artist. A photo that is artistically sound and correct, might be crap to the client. Just my opinion after observing the works of some art students at a local uni.
    Exactly. Thumbs up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewbieInCS
    IMHO, shooting for arts and shooting for money(commercial) are different. The concept and skills required are quite different...
    An example I have heard: shooting nude bodies - if out of focus and/or zoomed in, then it is art. If tack sharp, maximum DOF, zoomed out, then it's porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikonriana View Post
    Hello there,

    I believe to all people that are looking at this has a passion in photography.. but how many of you guys out there would actually pursuit a Bachelor Degree in Photography before heading of for your Careers in this field?
    Would it actually make much of any difference? Or is your portfolio that matters?
    What more opportunities will you see by getting a Bachelor Degree In Photography?
    Is there anyone pursuit one right now?

    Thanks for all the replies.
    I believe this website can answer your question
    http://www.nationalgeographic.com/si.../careers-faqs/
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    All I have to say is that I have gone through the whole process. Agree with most points that are already discussed.

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    It's the same when you talk about a student taking a business degree. Does it mean that he/she will become successful In business? Yes and no. Here is singapore. People are educated. But, few are smart.

    Even if you have a Phd in photography, can build a camera but suck in taking a pictures. Than, what's the point? Spend almost half of your life studying but no experience or exposure wont make you a better person. Teach in school lor. theory theory theory.......

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