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    hi all clubsnappers, was wondering what is the most suitable macro lens to go with APS-C camera.
    A few constraint to take note,
    - I need to take close-up on human face
    - Need to be real close to the subject if possible

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    - SP AF60mm f/2.0 Di II MACRO 1:1
    - SP AF 90mm f/2.8 Di 1:1 Macro
    - EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM lens

    Thank you in advance and feel free to add on the to the list and share with me your valuable pointers

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    All are suitable. But we don't know if you need to cover the whole face or just take a picture of a small patch of skin. My suggestion is to borrow a 18-105 or 18-135 lens and then test 60mm, 90mm and 100mm to see which focal length will work for your requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jiaxuan90 View Post
    hi all clubsnappers, was wondering what is the most suitable macro lens to go with APS-C camera.
    A few constraint to take note,
    - I need to take close-up on human face
    - Need to be real close to the subject if possible

    The Contestant
    - SP AF60mm f/2.0 Di II MACRO 1:1
    - SP AF 90mm f/2.8 Di 1:1 Macro
    - EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM lens

    Thank you in advance and feel free to add on the to the list and share with me your valuable pointers
    My question is... why do you want to use a macro lens for close up of human face? If portraiture is what you are looking at, maybe you should look into getting a 85mm or a 135mm lens.
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    R u trying to shoot a closeup shot of the human eye or something? Then I'd suggest the MP-E65 1-5x macro lens!
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    Thks for replying rashkae. I only need to take a small area of the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae
    All are suitable. But we don't know if you need to cover the whole face or just take a picture of a small patch of skin. My suggestion is to borrow a 18-105 or 18-135 lens and then test 60mm, 90mm and 100mm to see which focal length will work for your requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino123

    My question is... why do you want to use a macro lens for close up of human face? If portraiture is what you are looking at, maybe you should look into getting a 85mm or a 135mm lens.
    Thks for reply rhino123. I am currently holding on to 85mm. But it does not allow me to go as close as possible. I am trying out shots which feature close-up on human face.

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    what do you mean..as close as possible.. then you already holding a 85mm. 90 and 100mm wont make much different. You might as well get a telezoom if you want as close as possible? like 200mm 300mm.. or your close as possible means sharpness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWmilkteaTW View Post
    what do you mean..as close as possible.. then you already holding a 85mm. 90 and 100mm wont make much different. You might as well get a telezoom if you want as close as possible? like 200mm 300mm.. or your close as possible means sharpness?
    I believe TS is referring to the min focus distance when he made that statement. Macro lens allows you to focus much closer (probably ~30cm) than a "standard" lens (probably 45cm>).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TWmilkteaTW
    what do you mean..as close as possible.. then you already holding a 85mm. 90 and 100mm wont make much different. You might as well get a telezoom if you want as close as possible? like 200mm 300mm.. or your close as possible means sharpness?
    Closeness is not determined by focal length, consider the minimum focusing distance of the different lengths. If not why is there a need for macro lenses right?

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    Spree86 & skystrike thks for the reply. Ur post is a Spot on for my doubt so how do I go about countering it.
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyStrike

    I believe TS is referring to the min focus distance when he made that statement. Macro lens allows you to focus much closer (probably ~30cm) than a "standard" lens (probably 45cm>).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiaxuan90
    Spree86 & skystrike thks for the reply. Ur post is a Spot on for my doubt so how do I go about countering it.
    If you are going that close as you mentioned "a small area of the face". Then you would need a macro lens. You can consider a 60mm or a 90/100mm lens depending on your preference and budget
    Last edited by spree86; 25th August 2011 at 01:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiaxuan90 View Post
    Thks for reply rhino123. I am currently holding on to 85mm. But it does not allow me to go as close as possible. I am trying out shots which feature close-up on human face.
    Hmm... a 100mm f2.8L lens would be great in this case, the HIS would do wonder and was pretty sharp. Of course Tamron 90mm lens is also fabulous. Like what others say, it would very much depend on your own preference and also budget... please also looked into the following factors,

    1) Handling
    2) Focusing speed
    3) Image Stabilizer
    4) Weigh

    Hope it helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jiaxuan90 View Post
    Spree86 & skystrike thks for the reply. Ur post is a Spot on for my doubt so how do I go about countering it.
    Personally, I'm using a Raynox 250 on my zoom lens (18-55 and 55-250), it will allow me to focus at aprox 12cm...(to be exact, only at ~12cm, cannot focus closer or further than it 11cm or 13cm, there is an formula for it, can't rem ATM).

    Additional note: Your only issue as with other macro shoots is your DOF will be much thinner every step you go nearer to your subject. With this "issue", you have to use a much smaller aperture which may require a use of flash (or external flash to prevent casting of shadows) to use a faster shutter speed.
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    Regardless of which true macro lens, with the exception of Canon's MP-E 65mm, gives you a maximum magnification of 1:1. Which means they will look the same if you focus at the minimum focusing distance. The only practical difference betw. the lens is how short is the minimum focusing distance. Which is the reason why insect macro shooter wants a longer focal range with a higher min focusing distances for 1:1 in case the insect got scared away, and also why accessory product shoot can do well with, for example, the new Nikon 40mm micro lens, which has a very short min focusing distance, while the subject will not move (or attempt to move).

    On top of the above, some Tamron and Sigma lenses has imprinted the word MACRO in their lens, they are not true macro lens. As compare to other similar focal range lens, they have slightly shorter min focusing distance, which though it allows greater magnification, but it's not enough to achieve 1:1. Look for the term 1:1 when you are buying a macro lens and you will not go wrong.
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    do note the different angle of view that different focal length gives you

    what you need to look at is

    1. angle of view you want
    2. maximum reproduction ratio
    3. also note crop factor will increase maximum reproduction ratio

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    If it's just a focusing distance issue, you can get extension tube to work with your 85mm...

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    thks will have to look into my budget before getting any...
    Quote Originally Posted by spree86 View Post
    If you are going that close as you mentioned "a small area of the face". Then you would need a macro lens. You can consider a 60mm or a 90/100mm lens depending on your preference and budget

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    thks for replying nemesis32, extension tube?? not too sure what is that, mind explaining to me
    Quote Originally Posted by nemesis32 View Post
    If it's just a focusing distance issue, you can get extension tube to work with your 85mm...

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    thks for replying rhino123, definitely will take factor 2 and 3 into account.
    Quote Originally Posted by rhino123 View Post
    Hmm... a 100mm f2.8L lens would be great in this case, the HIS would do wonder and was pretty sharp. Of course Tamron 90mm lens is also fabulous. Like what others say, it would very much depend on your own preference and also budget... please also looked into the following factors,

    1) Handling
    2) Focusing speed
    3) Image Stabilizer
    4) Weigh

    Hope it helps.

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    thks for replying skystrike, if r u using raynox 250, did u notice that the picture is not that sharp...
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyStrike View Post
    Personally, I'm using a Raynox 250 on my zoom lens (18-55 and 55-250), it will allow me to focus at aprox 12cm...(to be exact, only at ~12cm, cannot focus closer or further than it 11cm or 13cm, there is an formula for it, can't rem ATM).

    Additional note: Your only issue as with other macro shoots is your DOF will be much thinner every step you go nearer to your subject. With this "issue", you have to use a much smaller aperture which may require a use of flash (or external flash to prevent casting of shadows) to use a faster shutter speed.

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