Beside Pandan Gardens .... LOLOriginally Posted by hazmee
sez who? you're not the only one who lives in that area.Originally Posted by hazmee
I must clarify that this is not a PSS project, but a project with the support of PSS, SCPS, PhotoArt, SAFRAPC and BoonLay CC Photo Club. We ought to stop these personal biasness comments or personal grudge against any club.Originally Posted by blurblock
Ultimately, this project allows the image to be taken by either a film or digital camera, but the submission method shall be via digital format for ease of administration. The committee has looked into the many options available. We cannot have submissions in print, slides and digital files as it will be very taxing for the administration process.
We also look into the costing, bearing in mind that making a 8R print is more expensive than having a good scan.
Apologies if film users are offended, but you may like to respect a growing population of digital users. This project is not meant to compare digital versus film, and all such arguments pertaining why only digital is requested should stop here.
Let us not get distracted, but rather, see how we can contribute to this book.
One rice breeds a hundred types of people. Let us work for what we believe is right.
My comment shall end here.
Firstly, the collection point is open everyday except public holidays, hence, contributors have many options as to which day to submit their works.Originally Posted by LCT
Secondly, it will not be nice if any mails are lost in post or sent to the wrong address.
Thirdly, as mentioned, all contributors are acknowledged on the spot by the administrators in a logbook.
Fourthly, the collection point is in downtown area, just 6 minutes walk from Dhoby Ghaut MRT.
Fifthly, with regards to registered post, the postmen usually comes in the morning and the collection point only opens in the afternoon. It will be very taxing on the staff to go to the post office so frequently to collect registered articles, bearing in mind that parcels uncollected after 7 days will be returned to sender. This will mean that the staff needs to go to the post office every 3 days should there be an influx of registered post.
Yes, fully agree.Originally Posted by KNIGHT ONG
Rather get too worked out over issues that are non-pertaining, PLEASE, upload some images which you feel like sharing, or get the rest inspired. If you feel that the images deserve a place in this historical book, you should submit it!
Nonetheless, this post can start a new thread which should be outside this TSWL thread. Blurblock has spent a lot of effort in his explanation, of which, not all might be true.Originally Posted by blurblock
There is this thingy called patent rights, which Kodak has been investing heavily upon. They are not losing out.
This post is a bit personal as blurblock knows that I used to use the S2 Pro. Not sure if we have any arguments or disagreement before, but lets not get too personal here as this is a community project. You may like to reserve your disagreements in your PM to me.
Time will tell for itself with regards to the fate of film and digital technology.
And for now, let us put a stop in this thread any discussion on film versus digital, as this thread has been around some time back. Revive that thread then!
Do tell me which is not true on open thread or PM, I would like to know where had I gone WrongOriginally Posted by Steven Yee
There is this thingy called a Annual Finanical Report that says they are losing out on Money and the only part they are earning tons of money is the Health Imaging Sector, nothing regarding Patent rights. Anyway, patent rights has something to do with Kodak investing in Digital and giving up Flim?There is this thingy called patent rights, which Kodak has been investing heavily upon. They are not losing out.
Not really personal, you mentioned in your previous posting on how your S2 Pro can achieve certain resolution to print 30 x 40 print, I am just trying to demostrate a film can achieve equal and more. Nothing against you.This post is a bit personal as blurblock knows that I used to use the S2 Pro. Not sure if we have any arguments or disagreement before, but lets not get too personal here as this is a community project. You may like to reserve your disagreements in your PM to me.
That I agree, and I am quite sure digital technology will prevail in the end, just like plastic negative prevail over glass technology, but then in current situation where digital technology is still behind analog, there is still some length to go, thus my view on film is still graphically superior, for the time being.Time will tell for itself with regards to the fate of film and digital technology.
Sure why not. I am not saying digital is better or worse off then film, but if you compare side by side, the answer is crystal clear. Digital will catch up some day, but not today.And for now, let us put a stop in this thread any discussion on film versus digital, as this thread has been around some time back. Revive that thread then!
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for those who wish to submit their contributions...tomorrow closing date.Originally Posted by acroamatic
Hi Steven, is there any update on this project? Seems like a long time after the 2nd selection. Still no release of autors of selected photos??
what a waste. Missed this opportunity. Just got back from Australia. Anyway I can still submit?
"The orginizers reserve the right to reproduce the images or use it for publication, publicity and exhibition purposes, without payment of any fees to the author."
I personally am against the condition stated above. The previous SBG competition was the same (co-organized by PSS). Once your images are submitted, regardless of whether they're chosen, they're free to use it for whatever purpose they deem fit.
this is why some photography competitions i don't even bother to take a look at it. simply they are making use of us to get in stock photos that they don't need to pay a single cents.Originally Posted by ywh
but anyway for this TSWL.....i contributes.....for my country.....is not a competition here afterall.
The selection process is ongoing. In the meantime, sit back, relax, and wait for the birth of this splendid book. In a way, the quality of the images submitted are great and it is a "tough fight" to have the image chosen to be in the book.
Official figures of entries will be released soon.
Jesser is absolutely correct. This is not a competition, rather, it is a contribution to make a big birthday gift for our nation's 40th birthday. This is a very meaningful project.Originally Posted by jesser
My issue was why should PSS be allowed to use the images submitted for anything they deem fit for? If this applies to the published images, it is by all means fair but then again, why in the world would PSS want to use images that were not shot by their members?
If it is solely for the contribution for a publication for our nation, yes, I would encourage everyone to submit but the above is a major turnoff. Tell me about killing two birds with one stone....
Well, goodness gracious, I do not know how this conclusion above came about.Originally Posted by ywh
PSS is just a secretariat for the project. The Steering committee, chaired by Mr Kwek Leng Joo, has the finaly say on how to promote the cause and the use of the images. There is overwhelming response to the project, and only selected images will be used for the book and the publicity. PSS has no right to use the image for its own activities!
In fact, the pictorial sub committee, headed by Mr Lee Tiah Khee, who is chief photographer at Zaobao, consists of representatives from the 5 photographic clubs.
I hope this clarifies once again.
Indeed, it is a real pity if anyone refused to submit because of the misinterpretation. This has been quite clear all the while.
And once again, this is not a solely PSS project, as there are a other partners in it, and include the other 4 photography clubs.
We live and work here in Singapore and although we are not PR or a citizen of Singapore yet but we contribute too. Sometimes, Its not about money.Originally Posted by jesser
If what you said was what the condition meant, then I must apologize for my misintepretation. But I personally feel that the condition could have been stated in a clearer way rather than just saying publicity (of what?).
It was my previous unpleasant experience with the SBG competition where (if I recall correctly) that PSS will own the copyright of the winning images that had my impression of this society changed for the worse.
Still I must applaud all the organizers for the effort and wish them the best for this project.
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Nope, PSS does not own the rights to the images that won prizes in the Botanic GArden competition. It is the Botanic Gardens that own them. I really do not see why PSS needs to own the rights, especially since our membership strength is more than 1800 members and we usually do not have problem when we request for images for exhibition purpose.
Aiyah, I think the organisers just being kiasu, want to have everything covered, scared kena sue or kena big copyright bill, so they come out with a vague and general rule to say that if they use, they won't get into trouble lah.Originally Posted by ywh
Seriously, why should they want to use the pixs for anything other than the book and for publicity and other matters related to the book? I don't think they so like that one lah.
And why some people here seem rather negative about PSS? Already Steven said many times that PSS is not the sole organiser but still PSS kena attack.
Have they done anything bad/wrong before? If cannot post in public, pm me lah. I just kaypoh want to know.