KthanksOriginally Posted by spree86
TS: The bottom line is, worry less, shoot more. Visit flickr groups and see the pictures taken using the 18-55. You may be surprised by what this lens can offer.
And have you tried blurring the background on a Sigma 14mm prime lens? Do you even know if that lens has good or bad bokeh?
If you don't know what bokeh means, or understand the difference between background blur and bokeh, don't anyhow post "advice".
I sometime find... using loose sentense like, "Bokeh not bokehlicious, as compare to whatever lens" was actually too general and only up to ones' own opinion but doesn't hold the absolute truth to the lens' spec.
Some people find certain lens' produces very nice OOF background blur while others might hated it. I for once, think that the 18-55mm produce pretty nice bokeh.
(courtesy of http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/823502/+360 (rambie))
To TS, my opinion is that the 18-55mm lens is an excellent lens... but not really fast (meaning didn't had too wide an aperture), but if you are shoot outdoor, then it is quite okay. Another thing that I hate about the 18-55mm was that during autofocus, the front element turned too when it was focusing, so using a CPL is pretty difficult.
Plus the AF is not always spot on (I think I have a bad copy). When I was on vacation to China once, there are plenty of inconsistency when I shoot with my 18-55mm. It was spot on with my 100mm lens for my flower shots though.
Off topic, the undermention is a good read... especially for TS to learn more about Bokeh.
In it you can actually see some unpleasing bokeh (yes... from prime lens too)
You might disagree with what it is written there or their examples. Photography is actually pretty abstract. Some of the photos or captures work for you but not to others. So some bokeh that you think is pretty nice and pleasing to the eyes, are actually unpleasant and distracting to others.
But in low light condition or in door, it hits it limitation, it may need a flash, or may need to decrease the shutter speed or increase ISO or tweaking the light source in order to make the photo do not appear underexpose.
TS should stay foot with the current gear and shoot for a few month first. By then he will know what kind of lens he needs and then consider getting a faster (f2.8) lens. No point rushing to buy a F2.8 wide angle lens to replace his kit lens now and end up he find it is too tight or too wide.
Last edited by lcheowl; 23rd June 2011 at 04:04 PM.
For the first para i personally feel that it's false.Originally Posted by lcheowl
I use f1.8 or f1.4 in bright day light to shoot sometimes as i want the thin dof. It really depends on how you want your picture to turn out.
Being a newbie I think getting the nifty fifty (50mm f1.8 )is a great way to learn how a prime lens work. I'm learning with the kit lens and this 麻雀 (if you know what I mean in Chinese)
IMHO the kit lens and 50mm f1.8 are essential lens for all beginners
Last edited by Tucksoon; 23rd June 2011 at 04:32 PM.
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Alright sorry , will not give wrong advice in the future. Thanks for correcting my mistakesOriginally Posted by Rashkae
The 50mm F/1.8 D isn't really a beginner lens. I would say it's the cheapest, most affordable gem lens you can get.Originally Posted by Tucksoon
another great thing about wider aperture lenses is that ur viewfinder is brighter with a wider aperture lens, plus the af system will be able to find its focus more easily as compared to using a lens with a narrower max aperture since more light enters thru the lens.
Google is your friend. Make use of it.
Absolutely. Maybe I should say if a newbie wish to learn prime lens shooting it's the most economical solution
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+1 to thatOriginally Posted by Tucksoon