Promotional offer for Actual Wedding Day and Events

wshooter · 9th September 2004

We are coming to year-end where things are hotting up, so I am offering a promotion for Weddings.

My wedding package is $500. What you get are :
- Photojournalistic style shooting with the usual formals from 7AM to 11.30pm or so. Of course give me a short rest in the afternoon when there is no so much happening.
- ard 500 shots with post-processing, effects for about 10% of them, images on DVD-R return.
- 10 DVD-Rs for photo distribution (eg relatives/friends/colleagues) in slideshow w/music format, viewable on TV/DVD player.
- 360x 4R (4x6"), 2 nice slot-in albums
- 28x S8R (8x12"), 1 freestyle type album
- slideshow to show during banquet, notebook provided. Pls provide me with the photos 2 weeks in advance.

Prints are using Fujifilm FDi lab on Fuji Crystal Archive Supreme paper. Good stuff.

For events, i charge $40/hr, 20% discount if more than 4hrs total.

Equipment : Digital SLR.

You can contact me via PM or wedding_photog@yahoo.com.sg

SMC · 9th September 2004

Do u have a website or your portfolio?

AReality · 9th September 2004

Since $500 is the promotional price?
THen how much is the non-promotional price?

louispang · 9th September 2004

S$500 for a full-day coverage, 360 4R prints, 28 8R prints, originals on DVDs...I think you are selling yourself too cheap IMHO.

If you are underpricing your service, you affect not only yourself but also other photographers. Thinking about the time and investment you need to put in to get a DSLR system, upgrades, software, learning the software, etc.

Are you serious about your price or r u just pulling our legs here?

wshooter · 9th September 2004

Originally Posted by SMC

Do u have a website or your portfolio?

PMed you bro.

wshooter · 9th September 2004

Originally Posted by AReality

Since $500 is the promotional price?
THen how much is the non-promotional price?

It's around the same, pretty much market rate if you were to take up the "in-house photogs" of bridal studios with 10 rolls. This is because I am able to get prints done very cheaply, so i am passing the savings back to the clients. They are not top-notch quality prints from Kodak Professional papers etc....though.

But FDi labs and CA Supreme papers can't go wrong too much....at least better than the usual neighbourhood labs.

wshooter · 9th September 2004

Originally Posted by louispang

S$500 for a full-day coverage, 360 4R prints, 28 8R prints, originals on DVDs...I think you are selling yourself too cheap IMHO.

If you are underpricing your service, you affect not only yourself but also other photographers. Thinking about the time and investment you need to put in to get a DSLR system, upgrades, software, learning the software, etc.

Are you serious about your price or r u just pulling our legs here?

Hi,

I am no Wee Khim or top pro (see www.singaporebrides.com.sg) or offering gloryworkz top notch albums or top-of-the-line Kodak Pro prints, 1Ds with backup 1DMkII, backup flash etc....

The offer is cool because I can get my prints done cheaply. I ever heard some guys printing S8R at $8/pc in bulk, and they thought that is cheap. The albums are still pretty cool looking. I am offering a good value-for-money package for those looking at this price point.

poohbear · 9th September 2004

Originally Posted by louispang

S$500 for a full-day coverage, 360 4R prints, 28 8R prints, originals on DVDs...I think you are selling yourself too cheap IMHO.

If you are underpricing your service, you affect not only yourself but also other photographers. Thinking about the time and investment you need to put in to get a DSLR system, upgrades, software, learning the software, etc.

Are you serious about your price or r u just pulling our legs here?

well true... the 25 8R prints will eat into the 500 'promotion price' quite a lot liao ...

wshooter · 9th September 2004

Originally Posted by poohbear

well true... the 25 8R prints will eat into the 500 'promotion price' quite a lot liao ...

I once posted my service here and none responded.

wudabao · 9th September 2004

500 is too cheap according the final products and the time from 7am to 11pm.

er.....

wshooter · 9th September 2004

Originally Posted by wudabao

500 is too cheap according the final products and the time from 7am to 11pm.

er.....

Hope you are not offended bro. One day i really gotta go try those 10cents durians, fruits, $1 chicken rice etc......to see if they are true.

DHSC76 · 10th September 2004

Please send me the link to your online portfolio or webspace. Thanks.
dhsc76@yahoo.com.sg

darrendelong · 10th September 2004

I hope you are not going to spoil the market. Its not good for yourself and your fellow professional.....

copperbird · 10th September 2004

so cheap? Please don do that. R you a professional or a hobbyist?

phototalk · 10th September 2004

Though anyone is free to put up their fee in this free market and no one can legislate for it but in this case you're effectively bringing the base price of a actual day wedding photography to an all time low! Of course those wedding couples are the only people laughing. Just imagine from now, the price to pay is $500 for a whole day with all those things thrown in! Just do a quick calculation how much you've spent on your equipment, the long learning process, your precious time etc???
At the very least, please spare a thought for your fellow photographers, especially those who are trying to make a living out of it and with families to feed!

darrendelong · 10th September 2004

Originally Posted by phototalk

Though anyone is free to put up their fee in this free market and no one can legislate for it but in this case you're effectively bringing the base price of a actual day wedding photography to an all time low! Of course those wedding couples are the only people laughing. Just imagine from now, the price to pay is $500 for a whole day with all those things thrown in! Just do a quick calculation how much you've spent on your equipment, the long learning process, your precious time etc???
At the very least, please spare a thought for your fellow photographers, especially those who are trying to make a living out of it and with families to feed!

I totally agree... when u give such low price...have u ever think about those photographers who make a living out of it... You may think you are doing it out of the passion not for money..but spare some consideration for the pros. Times are hard for them already..and now you are making their life even harder...

KeyserSoze · 10th September 2004

Originally Posted by darrendelong

I totally agree... when u give such low price...have u ever think about those photographers who make a living out of it... You may think you are doing it out of the passion not for money..but spare some consideration for the pros. Times are hard for them already..and now you are making their life even harder...

I concur.

Please ! Wshooter. Rewrite your ad again, at least stating you are charging this low because you are a hobbyist and not a photog trained pro. You are hurting those like me. I didn't pay for a valued education and a B.A. in Film and photography just to get out of business because everyone else knows where to get the cheapest DSLR and the cheapest prints from labs, thinks he should do weddings and events as well.

How would you like it if I had a fleet of high schoolers to shoot for me and I pay them $10/hour as trainee temps/parttimers and I get the rest of the $30 and corner all the low end private photog market in Singapore? If you do have a day job/second job/doing this as a school holiday thingy, please be considerate.

But if you ARE indeed pro/academically or even street-trained and rely on this photographry business as your livelihood, then I can only tell, whatever your portfolio is like, you lack business courtesy and work ethics and your photos probably reflect this anyway, as they will lack soul. Photos are more than just snapshots, they are a reflection of your integrity (i.e. backbone if you still have one) and your personality.

So please spare a thought for yourself and those around you.

ptwong · 10th September 2004

It's a free market, so WSHOOTER can shoot for a cup of coffee per hour if he wants. If he and his customers are happy, good for them.....
If pros find that times are bad, they would just have to review themselves and see how to improve their overall package, marketing strategy etc and not blame on people who charge lower. If hobbyist's standard is as good as pro, then something is really wrong with the industry....
All the best to you Wshooter.

eric69 · 10th September 2004

Originally Posted by phototalk

..Of course those wedding couples are the only people laughing. ..

Are you sure the wedding couples are laughing? If the photos turn out to be "..", then they probably be crying..

I think wedding events are just too important to screw up..

eric69 · 10th September 2004

[quote=ptwong]If pros find that times are bad, they would just have to review themselves and see how to improve their overall package, marketing strategy etc and not blame on people who charge lower. If hobbyist's standard is as good as pro, then something is really wrong with the industry....[quote]
It's the same analogy as the lasik operation in singapore. Singapore health care is just pricing itself out ofthe regional market. And see what they are doing now? Review, and review, ..

9th September 2004	#1
wshooter Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 79	Promotional offer for Actual Wedding Day and Events We are coming to year-end where things are hotting up, so I am offering a promotion for Weddings. My wedding package is $500. What you get are : - Photojournalistic style shooting with the usual formals from 7AM to 11.30pm or so. Of course give me a short rest in the afternoon when there is no so much happening. - ard 500 shots with post-processing, effects for about 10% of them, images on DVD-R return. - 10 DVD-Rs for photo distribution (eg relatives/friends/colleagues) in slideshow w/music format, viewable on TV/DVD player. - 360x 4R (4x6"), 2 nice slot-in albums - 28x S8R (8x12"), 1 freestyle type album - slideshow to show during banquet, notebook provided. Pls provide me with the photos 2 weeks in advance. Prints are using Fujifilm FDi lab on Fuji Crystal Archive Supreme paper. Good stuff. For events, i charge $40/hr, 20% discount if more than 4hrs total. Equipment : Digital SLR. You can contact me via PM or wedding_photog@yahoo.com.sg

9th September 2004	#3
AReality Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4,407	Since $500 is the promotional price? THen how much is the non-promotional price? __________________ . The Visual Journalist

10th September 2004	#14
copperbird Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 224	hurt the market so cheap? Please don do that. R you a professional or a hobbyist?

10th September 2004	#15
phototalk Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 166	Hurt the market 2 Though anyone is free to put up their fee in this free market and no one can legislate for it but in this case you're effectively bringing the base price of a actual day wedding photography to an all time low! Of course those wedding couples are the only people laughing. Just imagine from now, the price to pay is $500 for a whole day with all those things thrown in! Just do a quick calculation how much you've spent on your equipment, the long learning process, your precious time etc??? At the very least, please spare a thought for your fellow photographers, especially those who are trying to make a living out of it and with families to feed!

10th September 2004	#18
ptwong Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Yishun Posts: 501	It's a free market, so WSHOOTER can shoot for a cup of coffee per hour if he wants. If he and his customers are happy, good for them..... If pros find that times are bad, they would just have to review themselves and see how to improve their overall package, marketing strategy etc and not blame on people who charge lower. If hobbyist's standard is as good as pro, then something is really wrong with the industry.... All the best to you Wshooter. __________________ 300D/40D/5D2 17-40L F4, 28-70L F2.8, 24-105L F4, 50 F1.4, 70-200L F2.8

9th September 2004	#2
SMC Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hougang Posts: 393	Do u have a website or your portfolio?

9th September 2004	#4
louispang Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sabah, Malaysia Posts: 103	S$500 for a full-day coverage, 360 4R prints, 28 8R prints, originals on DVDs...I think you are selling yourself too cheap IMHO. If you are underpricing your service, you affect not only yourself but also other photographers. Thinking about the time and investment you need to put in to get a DSLR system, upgrades, software, learning the software, etc. Are you serious about your price or r u just pulling our legs here?

9th September 2004	#10
wudabao Deregistered Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 346	500 is too cheap according the final products and the time from 7am to 11pm. er.....

10th September 2004	#12
DHSC76 New Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 22	Please send me the link to your online portfolio or webspace. Thanks. dhsc76@yahoo.com.sg

10th September 2004	#13
darrendelong New Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7	I hope you are not going to spoil the market. Its not good for yourself and your fellow professional.....

10th September 2004	#20
eric69 Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Global Village Posts: 444	[quote=ptwong]If pros find that times are bad, they would just have to review themselves and see how to improve their overall package, marketing strategy etc and not blame on people who charge lower. If hobbyist's standard is as good as pro, then something is really wrong with the industry....[quote] It's the same analogy as the lasik operation in singapore. Singapore health care is just pricing itself out ofthe regional market. And see what they are doing now? Review, and review, ..