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    Default Flickr or Internet Explorer desaturates photos?

    Hi guys, I recently encountered this problem, please share your thoughts on this issue.

    The story starts like this - after I've done editting some of my photos, I find that they kinda got desaturated after I uploaded them to flickr, viewed using internet explorer.

    If I use firefox as browser, they however appear the same as what I last saw them on photoshop before sending them online.

    Doesn't that mean that I have to calibrate my monitor or there is something to do with my software. Currently I'm using a laptop and Photoshop CS4.

    Your help will be highly appreciated.
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    Default Re: Flickr or Internet Explorer desaturates photos?

    You need to embed your ICC profile and use a color managed browser. Firefox latest version should be color managed.

    This is probably the problem.

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    that's because IE is not color managed
    although IE9 is stated to be color managed, but it doesn't seem to work as how it should.
    for color managed browser, stick with firefox 3-3.5 or 4, there are some problems with 3.6

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    Default Re: Flickr or Internet Explorer desaturates photos?

    Hey guys, thx so much for your replies.

    Hmmm.... I'm now in dilemma bcos there is this blog I'm currently managing now, most of my viewers are IE users, and every time I have to 'over-saturate' my photos before uploading in order to make them look like how I originally intend them to be. But they look totally unacceptable when I view it on Firefox.

    Would there be a way to get around this problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellyfishy View Post
    Hey guys, thx so much for your replies.

    Hmmm.... I'm now in dilemma bcos there is this blog I'm currently managing now, most of my viewers are IE users, and every time I have to 'over-saturate' my photos before uploading in order to make them look like how I originally intend them to be. But they look totally unacceptable when I view it on Firefox.

    Would there be a way to get around this problem?
    IT wise, you could continue over-saturate your photos, and put a disclaimer that says something along the line of,"this blog is best viewed with internet explorer 8 and 9."

    i rather you do this because most would have IE (at least windows users), but not everyone would have firefox. I, for one, doesnt have FF; i use chrome..
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    Want to get back to photography

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    I suggest working in sRGB space as opposed to Adobe RGB (if you are).

    Heres a good explanation on how to use correct colour profiles>

    http://www.gballard.net/psd/go_live_...Gprofiles.html
    Last edited by tesumi; 19th April 2011 at 11:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellyfishy View Post
    Hey guys, thx so much for your replies.

    Hmmm.... I'm now in dilemma bcos there is this blog I'm currently managing now, most of my viewers are IE users, and every time I have to 'over-saturate' my photos before uploading in order to make them look like how I originally intend them to be. But they look totally unacceptable when I view it on Firefox.

    Would there be a way to get around this problem?
    thats the problem with digital images.
    you can never present the colors you want to your viewers as intended.
    Do not that even if you over-saturate your images to look good on your IE.
    you have to factor in your viewer's color management system, monitor, monitor settings, viewing conditions etc.

    since its a blog, it would best to have a disclaimer stating what browsers are more compatible etc.

    and like what tesumi mentioned, always work on sRGB for web images. unless you are targeting viewers who are color managed.

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    hi TS

    just assume your viewers won't be using color management, and use sRGB as the color space for your images... put a message asking your users to use a certain browser for best effect... there is no solve-all solution ... for me, the Safari browser works best...

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    Hey guys, thx so much for all your valuable suggestions. At the moment, it looks like putting up a disclaimer might just be the best answer to the woes.

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    Default Re: Flickr or Internet Explorer desaturates photos?

    In the first place, even if you color manage and calibrate your monitor, etc... If the layman who doesn't calibrate or color manage views your photos, he won't see what you see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edutilos- View Post
    In the first place, even if you color manage and calibrate your monitor, etc... If the layman who doesn't calibrate or color manage views your photos, he won't see what you see.
    Haha, you got the point

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    Quote Originally Posted by edutilos- View Post
    In the first place, even if you color manage and calibrate your monitor, etc... If the layman who doesn't calibrate or color manage views your photos, he won't see what you see.
    that's why i dun think of calibrating anymore... unless if i need to print out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellyfishy View Post
    Haha, you got the point
    Quote Originally Posted by sinned79 View Post
    that's why i dun think of calibrating anymore... unless if i need to print out.
    but at least you know you are viewing the right colors.
    if colors are wrong at your point in the first place. there definitely won't be anyone viewing it right out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wdEvA View Post
    but at least you know you are viewing the right colors.
    if colors are wrong at your point in the first place. there definitely won't be anyone viewing it right out there.
    so far i dun have problems with my photo colors (only at times)

    example:


    the blue and pink tone a bit quite off...

    i am using macbook btw and srgb on my camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinned79 View Post
    that's why i dun think of calibrating anymore... unless if i need to print out.
    You should still calibrate.

    If you edit, and it's not done properly, in the end you will end up with weird photos. Which is why I've deleted a lot of my older photos.. That didn't look right after I got a good monitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edutilos- View Post
    You should still calibrate.

    If you edit, and it's not done properly, in the end you will end up with weird photos. Which is why I've deleted a lot of my older photos.. That didn't look right after I got a good monitor.

    ohh ok... can help me see my photos on my flickr with your good monitor? which monitor u using now btw?

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    I suggest getting IPS LCDs. They cost alot more but have much better colour reproduction and viewing angles.

    Dell's ultrasharp range are excellent, using the 27" u2711 right now. Their 24" and above comes precalibrated from factory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tesumi View Post
    I suggest getting IPS LCDs. They cost alot more but have much better colour reproduction and viewing angles.

    Dell's ultrasharp range are excellent, using the 27" u2711 right now. Their 24" and above comes precalibrated from factory.
    w/o proper calibration, it would be quite pointless to have a good monitor, even Eizo might not give u accurate colors
    factory calibrated or not, it's calibrated to the factory environment. Not the place that you are using the monitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinned79 View Post
    ohh ok... can help me see my photos on my flickr with your good monitor? which monitor u using now btw?
    Dell Ultrasharp 24" or 27" I cannot remember...

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    Quote Originally Posted by edutilos- View Post
    Dell Ultrasharp 24" or 27" I cannot remember...
    ohh ok. u using spyder to calibrate or?

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