Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 53

Thread: Prime vs zoom

  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    u n k n o w n
    Posts
    692

    Question Prime vs zoom

    Prime setup:
    20mm
    35mm
    50mm
    85mm
    105mm
    180mm

    Zoom setup:
    14-24
    24-70
    70-200

    Hi, All, would like to get opinion on prime and zoom setup. I have searched for the pros and cons for both setup, among the main pros and cons are:

    1) For prime, we can get better image quality, relatively lower cost (excluding some really expensive prime e.g.: 24mm f1.4), lighter, bigger aperture

    2) For zoom, on the other hand, we save the trouble to change lens that frequent (relatively), higher cost (however, if compare to full prime setup, actually cheaper), heavier biggest aperture normally starts at 2.8 and versatility.


    Therefore I would like to get opinions for CSers who have similar experience to this topic: mainly use for travelling/ street photography, portraitures and events.
    For me, prime’s main cons are troublesome on keep on changing lens for different focal length have the higher risk to miss some great shots (relatively), more worries about which lens to use and attract more dust (as frequent changing lenses). I foresee the frustration of changing lens under scorching sun light with dusty environment with the risk to drop the lens, touch wood!

    Whereby for zoom, main problem are 14-24 weighs close to 1kg, 24-70 close to 1kg and 70-200 around 1.5 kg. Together with FX body, minimum holding around 2kg – 2.5kg (excluding battery pack, if any), is it possible to hold such setup for few hours. Please bear in mind if carrying such setup for hours, even the VR can’t reduce the shake!

    Personally, when I owned previous system, I used the mix of medium zoom with primes. For travelling, I have seen quite similar setup but more common setup are either :
    16-35 & 70-200 (UWA lover) or
    24-70 & 70-200 (medium zoom lover).

    So now the question is, which setup, prime or zoom, will you bring for travelling or events given that you can only choose either.

    I have anticipated that prime is feasible because 20mm will be used to cover landscape, 35 to 85mm for walkabout lenses and 105/135mm for portrait with 180mm for tele prime. However, for zoom, it has the higher chance to capture great moment without missing it, however the weights are the drawback.

  2. #2
    Deregistered tweakmax2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Pasir Ris
    Posts
    198

    Default

    I prefer 50mm prime if I am in a room setting.. Fast focus and IQ is main priorty

  3. #3
    Deregistered tweakmax2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Pasir Ris
    Posts
    198

    Default

    I prefer 50mm prime if I am in a room setting.. Fast focus and IQ is main priorty

  4. #4

    Default Re: Prime vs zoom

    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post

    Whereby for zoom, main problem are 14-24 weighs close to 1kg, 24-70 close to 1kg and 70-200 around 1.5 kg. Together with FX body, minimum holding around 2kg – 2.5kg (excluding battery pack, if any), is it possible to hold such setup for few hours. Please bear in mind if carrying such setup for hours, even the VR can’t reduce the shake!
    Today i sling my d700+n24-70 entire day from 10pm til 5pm ... feels alright especially when you have the correct neck strap.

  5. #5

    Default Re: Prime vs zoom

    This is a good read for your situation. http://www.digital-photography-schoo...which-are-best

    If you wanna get straight to the point, i've grab one of his comments about it.

    "Obviously there is a range of factors to consider and ultimately the decision will come down to a number of factors including the type and style of photography that you do, your budget, the need for portability, how often you’re willing to change lenses, the quality you’re after and the shooting conditions you’ll be shooting in.
    My own approach with lenses is to go with both."

  6. #6

    Default Re: Prime vs zoom

    When i travel... I carry only
    1) 24-70 f2.8
    2) 50 f1.4G

  7. #7

    Default Re: Prime vs zoom

    You've already done your homework, asked all the questions, discussed at length & know the differences both positive & negative between the two. The rest is just up to your own choice, your personal preferences, photography style & budget, notwithstanding the experiences of others. Thought you already "currently deciding between set 1 and set 2"?
    Last edited by s1221ljc; 18th April 2011 at 09:32 AM.

  8. #8
    Senior Member edutilos-'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    The Universe
    Posts
    5,991

    Default Re: Prime vs zoom

    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    For prime, we can get better image quality, relatively lower cost (excluding some really expensive prime e.g.: 24mm f1.4), lighter, bigger aperture
    Not true that you can always get better image quality... It depends on what you're comparing, but it is not necessarily true that a prime yields better IQ all the time to a comparable zoom with prime focal length inside its range.

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2002
    Location
    Astin Studio
    Posts
    4,736

    Default

    Don't get all primes or all zooms, u need to mix and match, example a wide prime plus a tele VR zoom.

  10. #10

    Default Re: Prime vs zoom

    Try a zoom setup and prime setup (rent whatever you want to try). Are you more comfortable with the zoom setup or the prime setup? That will help you decide. Of course, you don't have to rent the whole setup, you can just rent, say, a 24mm f2.8D, 85mm f1.8D, and a 24-70 f2.8, and try them out. No point forcing yourself to a prime setup if your style is better suited to zooms, and vice versa.

    Otherwise, get a mix, like a 14-24 f2.8, 50/1.4G, 70-200 VRII. Something like that.

    Remember, the best lens setup for you is not the one with the best image quality etc, it is the one that you feel most comfortable using.

  11. #11
    Member betta01's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Borneo rainforest
    Posts
    593

    Default Re: Prime vs zoom

    I am a prime lens user, the Nikon AFD series is relative cheap and light weight, image quality is good too.
    Personally for me the low f stops and light weight of a prime lens is addictive enough for me to give up zoom lens completely.
    Mine full name-Betta Macrostoma
    Can call me Betta.

  12. #12

    Default Re: Prime vs zoom

    Quote Originally Posted by betta01 View Post
    I am a prime lens user, the Nikon AFD series is relative cheap and light weight, image quality is good too.
    Personally for me the low f stops and light weight of a prime lens is addictive enough for me to give up zoom lens completely.
    Nikon has some outstanding zoom lenses though, the 14-24, 24-70, 70-200 VR2. IQ of the old prime lenses especially in the 24-70 range (24/2.8D, 50/1.8D, 50/1.4D) are not that far off from these new lenses (and in some cases even poorer than the zooms).

    Of course, the light weight and relative prices of the primes make them attractive.

  13. #13

    Default Re: Prime vs zoom

    The new prime lenses 24/35/85mm f1.4G are super poisonous.
    A good picture always comes from good composition and good camera settings first, then follow by the lenses to execute a good photo. But with the wider apertures and low light ability given by these new prime lenses, you can add another dimension to your photos which the kit lenses and zoom lenses(widest at f2.8 only) are unable to do so. These benefits come with a price though. You have to evaluate the price at your own. Everyone is different.
    Kent Wong Photography |Leica Q & Leica M-P 240 | 75 & 28mm Summilux

  14. #14
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Singapore, Singapore, Singapor
    Posts
    454

    Default

    There is no right nor wrong set up. There is only ill prepared setup. Really depends on what u are shooting and lighting condition.
    http://www.EdmundPhoto.com
    for Weddings, Family Portraits, Executive Portraits, etc

  15. #15

    Default Re: Prime vs zoom

    My Qs is how good is the IQ of the top end primes (recently released 24, 35, 85 f1.4) compared to the 14-24, 24-70 n 70-200 f2.8? to justify such a price tag..

  16. #16

    Default Re: Prime vs zoom

    Quote Originally Posted by baggiolee View Post
    My Qs is how good is the IQ of the top end primes (recently released 24, 35, 85 f1.4) compared to the 14-24, 24-70 n 70-200 f2.8? to justify such a price tag..
    You may refer to the links below:

    85mm f1.4G vs 70-200 mm VRII
    24mm f1.4G vs 14-24mm f2.8
    24mm f1.4G vs 16-35mm f4 VR

    How to justify something worth the money? Everyone has different measurement. Do you think buying a $500k sports car worth the money when you cannot drive more than 120km/hour in Singapore? Do you think it's worth to buy a $900k condo while you spend a lot of time working and not at home? Do you think it's worth to buy a $5k Tag-Heur watch when you don't wear it 24 hours everyday? Do you think it's worth to buy a $20k Chanel bag when you only carry it during the weekends?
    Last edited by kentwong81; 20th April 2011 at 10:24 AM.
    Kent Wong Photography |Leica Q & Leica M-P 240 | 75 & 28mm Summilux

  17. #17

    Default Re: Prime vs zoom

    Quote Originally Posted by baggiolee View Post
    My Qs is how good is the IQ of the top end primes (recently released 24, 35, 85 f1.4) compared to the 14-24, 24-70 n 70-200 f2.8? to justify such a price tag..
    there are many reviews out there and the new primes excel much better then the zoom in contrast and sharpness. Plus F1.4 vs F2.8 u get extra 2 stop.. and the light weight of primes... this is how you justify... if u can't, then zoom suit u well..

  18. #18
    Member fmeeran's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Clementi, Singapore
    Posts
    834

    Default Re: Prime vs zoom

    Quote Originally Posted by kentwong81 View Post
    Do you think buying a $500k sports car worth the money when you cannot drive more than 120km/hour in Singapore?
    Sorry for going off track. You can drive (legally) at 120 km/h in singapore? I thought the maximum wass 90 km/h.
    Dxxxx | 35/1.8 | 50/1.8 | Tokina 28-70 | Panny G1 | 14-45 | 25/1.7
    My Flickr

  19. #19

    Default Re: Prime vs zoom

    Quote Originally Posted by fmeeran View Post
    Sorry for going off track. You can drive (legally) at 120 km/h in singapore? I thought the maximum wass 90 km/h.
    oh really? I forgot, haha. If it is 90km/h, then it's a pity to see such an expensive sports car at this speed.
    Kent Wong Photography |Leica Q & Leica M-P 240 | 75 & 28mm Summilux

  20. #20
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    u n k n o w n
    Posts
    692

    Default Re: Prime vs zoom

    Quote Originally Posted by s1221ljc View Post
    You've already done your homework, asked all the questions, discussed at length & know the differences both positive & negative between the two. The rest is just up to your own choice, your personal preferences, photography style & budget, notwithstanding the experiences of others. Thought you already "currently deciding between set 1 and set 2"?
    Hi, bro, thanks for the advice. I would like to bring these topics for discussion to avoid being regret in future. It's a pain to sell these items in later time. Nevertheless, we get to understand more via discussion.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •