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    I thought Man U match is next Saturday, 15.1.2005, and not this saturday???

    Don't scare me, cos with such a depleted squad, I fear we will not get any points from a Man U team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesecake
    agree with u on the views abt Josemi. i just keep my fingers crossed that he'll buck up and jusitfy his 2million quid tag.

    pellegrino for sure has a role to play. maybe benitez wants him to play as a sweeper. haha or a libero!!
    most prob as a substitute or a centreback and shift carragher to right back.

    talking abt EeeeeeeGor.... where's he now?? did he offended benitez? i can;t believe that Diao keeps getting selected ahead of EeeeeeeeGor!!
    diao must be a witchdoctor!!!! hohoho

    pellegrino is certainly going to be part of the rotation as Hyypia and Carragher is likely to be suspended or tired or injured (touch wood) at some point. As mentioned by the commentators, they were the only 2 players that played all league matches. Yup, only these 2. Hence, i think Rafa has done very well in view of the new signings not settling in yet, numerous injuries, playing players signed by Houllier, departure of 3 senior strikers (owen, heskey and diouf).

    Igor is unlikely to play if the rumours of him leaving is true. Rafa will not want to risk him getting injured if he's trading Igor. I suspect Igor will be sold to fund other purchases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nemesis32
    i think Rafa has done very well in view of the new signings not settling in yet, numerous injuries, playing players signed by Houllier, departure of 3 senior strikers (owen, heskey and diouf).
    u are right..i share the same sentiment too. even Carrager praised Rafa that he did not mourn or blame the injuries, the tight schedule and the referee. he just put his down to more harder with the player.

    8-Jan - FA Cup vs burnley.
    11-Jan - 1st leg of the semi -final..vs Watford.
    15-Jan - vs MU

    btw...pls read this article It shared some of the comments that I made in my earlier post about Diao (why he was there to play), Nunez (unbelievable lousy) and garcia (fancy passing but seldom the ball seldom reach his player) in the game vs Norwich.
    Last edited by MichaelLee; 5th January 2005 at 10:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wong_se
    u are right..i share the same sentiment too. even Carrager praised Rafa that he did not mourn or blame the injuries, the tight schedule and the referee. he just put his down to more harder with the player.

    8-Jan - FA Cup vs burnley.
    11-Jan - 1st leg of the semi -final..vs Watford.
    15-Jan - vs MU

    btw...pls read this article It shared some of the comments that I made in my earlier post about Diao (why he was there to play), Nunez (unbelievable lousy) and garcia (fancy passing but seldom the ball seldom reach his player) in the game vs Norwich.
    Hehe.. you help to draft the article is it!

    on a side note...Rafa is losing confidence with Kirkland (i think so) and Dudek (i doubt so) that he's signing an Oman KeepeR?

    Also, 2 premiership sides are interested in signing La tallec... i think Rafa may want to bring him back since Alonso is injured.

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    Strange, I said that about Garcia after I watched his first game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jed
    Strange, I said that about Garcia after I watched his first game...
    hi jed, where have u been ? long time did not read your post here..

    u are not pleased with his performance either ??

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    Liverpool is lucky that we have a core group of players that played their hearts out so that some of the error-prone players are not being punished. Players like Gerrard, Hamann, Hyypia and Carragher covered their a$$ more time than i can remember.

    Players like garcia, nunez, sinama and diao must make sure they don't lose possession too easily. Eventhough i think we have improved, i think our attack so far is very 1-dimensional, pumping in long balls from the right to Riise on the back post seems to the play, every play.

    It's great that riise scoring for fun now but we really lack the fluency or options in attack, which is why Norwich can defend us quite easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nemesis32
    Liverpool is lucky that we have a core group of players that played their hearts out so that some of the error-prone players are not being punished. Players like Gerrard, Hamann, Hyypia and Carragher covered their a$$ more time than i can remember.
    this is very true..during our best season under Houllier....when we won 3 cups, finish 2nd behind arsenal and had the best defend in Europe League..We have Hyypia at his best..hencoz like a sweeper infront oh Hyypia, Carrager played his unfamiliar role-Lb but with all his soul, and an experienced Babbel (who himself declare that he is Liverpool boyhood fans as well) with hamann as DM...our success built from a solid defending.

    they are less error and blunder (although on and off Vesterweld punched the ball into his own net) and conceded penalty.

    Quote Originally Posted by nemesis32
    Players like garcia, nunez, sinama and diao must make sure they don't lose possession too easily. Eventhough i think we have improved, i think our attack so far is very 1-dimensional, pumping in long balls from the right to Riise on the back post seems to the play, every play.
    I must admit that our attacking is not very fancy at this stage..but it will be different if we have all players available, Kewell, Alonso, Cisse, Baros and gerrard.

    and I believe most of us here would also agree that this season attack is better than last season. Last season, we played at least 30-40% of the game like the one we just did against Norwich. No idea to attack.

    With the reinforcement, let progress further...Everton..here we come.

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    goodness, would we ever get a bit of luck........
    Liverpool have today confirmed they will be without the services of both Xabi Alonso and Chris Kirkland for the next three months.
    Alonso needs an operation to repair the broken ankle sustained against Chelsea on Saturday while Kirkland will undergo keyhole surgery on Friday to cure a back problem.

    The news comes as a bitter blow for manager Rafael Benitez who has already had to contend with a series of long term injuries to key players this season.

    Benitez had hoped that inspirational midfielder Alonso would only be sidelined for six weeks but a specialist yesterday confirmed he needs a screw inserting into the fracture in his left ankle in an operation which will keep him out for three months. That surgery will take place tomorrow.

    Kirkland also faces a similar length of time in the treatment room after it was decided he needs keyhole surgery on a disc in his lower back.

    Liverpool Head of Press Ian Cotton confirmed: "Both players require operations and will be out for three months."
    i hope biscan doesn't go. we need him more than ever now...certainly more than we need diao. so now we have kewell, cisse, alonso, baros and kirkland out, not to mention josemi (which is not necessarily bad). sigh, you'll never crock alone?

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    We signed Pellegrino

    Liverpoolfc.tv present 12 facts about our new Argentine defender from Valencia Mauricio Pellegrino.
    Mauricio is the first Argentine to play for Liverpool.

    He was born in Argentina on 5th October 1971.

    He can't play in the Champions League for Liverpool after a substitute appearance for Valencia against Weder Bremen. When defender Carlos Marchena was sent-off coach Claudio Ranieri wanted more defensive stability and brought Pellegrino on in the 57th minute. Valencia lost the game 2-1.

    He started his career playing in Argentina for CA Velez Sarsfield.

    He played over 200 games for the club winning three Apertura titles and two Clausura titles and a number of international honours, including the Copa Libertadores and European/South American Cup in 1994.

    In 1998 he moved to La Liga to play for Spanish giants Barcelona. He made 23 appearances as Barcelona won the league title under Louis van Gaal.

    In 1999 Pellegrino was snapped up by Valencia and instantly began to form a impressive partnership in central defence alongside fellow Argentine Roberto Ayala.

    He played in two Champions League finals for Valencia only to finish on the losing side twice to Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. Unfortunately Pellegrino missed a penalty in the final against the Germans.

    In 2001/02, under the management of Rafael Benitez Pellegrino helped the Mestalla side to their first Spanish championship since 1971.

    He didn't have much luck last season in 2003/04 when a dislocated shoulder and the form of Carlos Marchena kept Pellegrino on the sidelines and he made just 16 starts as Valencia won back the Spanish title.

    Mauricio was a substitute in the UEFA Cup final victory over Olympique de Marseille, coming on in the 86th minute, Benitez's last match in charge of Valencia.

    In Spain, the tall Pellegrino was nicknamed 'El flaco', meaning skinny. Back in Argentina he has the more imaginative description of 'El longanizas' - which is a long pork sausage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giddygoat
    goodness, would we ever get a bit of luck........


    i hope biscan doesn't go. we need him more than ever now...certainly more than we need diao. so now we have kewell, cisse, alonso, baros and kirkland out, not to mention josemi (which is not necessarily bad). sigh, you'll never crock alone?
    With alonso out for 3 months... i think now is more likely the Liverpool board will splash out more transfer money to get Pablo Aimar.

    Also,maybe the rumours of Liverpool signing the Lyn Goalkeeper from Oman may be true after all.

    As i have previously said, liverpool seems to be very suay on injuries. Players like heggem (rem him? one of our best norway import before riise), Rednapp (best england midfielder that never fulfils his potential), Fowler (best england and liverpool striker), Berger (best czech midfielder, yes, at 1996 Euro, he is better than Nedved) and lots of others in recent years like Kirkland (he at liverpool for 4-5 years but still less than 100 appearances i think), Nunez (injured immediately after transfer from Real Madrid), Cisse (our supposedly no. 1 striker after mickey mouse, out for 1 full year), Alonso (out for 3 months), Hamann (out for couple of months before season starts), Henchoz (out for almost 1/2 a season one or 2 season back), Kewell (out for injuries on and off since transfer from Leeds, just pray he dun become Rednapp II). Heck, even Gerrard (back injuries in his earlier days, broken metasal or something recently) and Mickey mouse (constant hamstring problems that robs him of his speedy runs, noticed he never break thru offside traps as often as his early years before injuries)

    I think Liverpool needs to sign a new physio and look at their training programs etc. I don;t think it's just bad luck. Maybe it's the training pitch, mayber the food or maybe the curse of the devils, gooners and everlose!

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    free and experienced ?? may be may be if he is another Josemi.

    I welcome him and hope the best he can deliver.

    Losing ALonso for 3 months !!! and after he need 2-4 weeks to gain back match fitness and sharpness. That will be 3-4 months.. and he will only come back by may.. Season almost over liao...

    Shiitt...although Lampard had apologized, I could not forgive him now. Please raise fund here and I will contact british secret agent to assassinate him.

    this is something about LFC. I really could not remember since when and who the victim was when Liverpool player accidentally and/or intentionally broke his leg.

    But i could have remembered so mercy we are that so many LFC legs have been broken since the last 5 years.

    No wonder u either hear there are Liverpool or non Liverpool fans..but seldom u hear that people hate Liverpool.

    not like our rival...there are more anti-Mu fans than MU fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giddygoat
    In Spain, the tall Pellegrino was nicknamed 'El flaco', meaning skinny. Back in Argentina he has the more imaginative description of 'El longanizas' - which is a long pork sausage.
    yeah... i can imagine Anfield chanting LONG PORK SAUSAGE!!

    jokes aside, i think it's high time we sign a player that have the winning records of winning cups, league championship etc. If you noticed, Liverpool have almost never signed anyone that wins a major championship.

    I think the only player who won something impt is Hamann who won German League with Bayern before he joins Newcastle and subsequently Liverpool....

    Winning is a habit. Once you know how to win (how to close out a game, break opponent's rythem etc), Liverpool will be a much better team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wong_se
    free and experienced ?? may be may be if he is another Josemi.

    I welcome him and hope the best he can deliver.

    Losing ALonso for 3 months !!! and after he need 2-4 weeks to gain back match fitness and sharpness. That will be 3-4 months.. and he will only come back by may.. Season almost over liao...

    Shiitt...although Lampard had apologized, I could not forgive him now. Please raise fund here and I will contact british secret agent to assassinate him.

    this is something about LFC. I really could not remember since when and who the victim was when Liverpool player accidentally and/or intentionally broke his leg.

    But i could have remembered so mercy we are that so many LFC legs have been broken since the last 5 years.

    No wonder u either hear there are Liverpool or non Liverpool fans..but seldom u hear that people hate Liverpool.

    not like our rival...there are more anti-Mu fans than MU fans.
    I think Pellegrino may be a good signing. Anyway, glad to see that Rafa is smart enough to sign him only on 6 mths, so worse case scenario is he sucks and we dun give him the extension. Seems like Rafa is still not so player-loyalty-blinded like the old scot from old trafford.

    As for broken legs... i think Heggem, Kharvme, Rednapp, Carragher,Gerrard all broke before... and now there's Alonso.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wong_se

    this is something about LFC. I really could not remember since when and who the victim was when Liverpool player accidentally and/or intentionally broke his leg.
    can't remember either but i'm sure "razor" neil ruddock tried his best! that is one siao fella

    we need to get a run together. the main thing missing in our team compared to the big boys is really the confidence (and arrogance) that they have. you get the feel that the boys go into a match unsure if they are gonna win it and when they don't take an early lead or the opponents put up a fight, our confidence ebb away and we struggle.

    the only anti-liverpool fan i know is edwin yeo of TNP

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    Quote Originally Posted by nemesis32
    Players like heggem (rem him? one of our best norway import before riise), Rednapp (best england midfielder that never fulfils his potential), Fowler (best england and liverpool striker), Berger (best czech midfielder, yes, at 1996 Euro, he is better than Nedved) and lots of others in recent years like Kirkland (he at liverpool for 4-5 years but still less than 100 appearances i think), Nunez (injured immediately after transfer from Real Madrid), Cisse (our supposedly no. 1 striker after mickey mouse, out for 1 full year), Alonso (out for 3 months), Hamann (out for couple of months before season starts), Henchoz (out for almost 1/2 a season one or 2 season back), Kewell (out for injuries on and off since transfer from Leeds, just pray he dun become Rednapp II). Heck, even Gerrard (back injuries in his earlier days, broken metasal or something recently) and Mickey mouse (constant hamstring problems that robs him of his speedy runs, noticed he never break thru offside traps as often as his early years before injuries)
    this is very true..and u also missed out Babbel..who suffer some kind of stranger virus that attack him until he can hardly move a finger.

    i dun think the pitch is bad or we have been cursed. it must be the player size and injury tolerance level. All are them u mention are very thin and not muscular. Look at Heskey, Diouf, Diao, Hamann, Robert Song, Titi Camera...all seldom injured..

    Talk about heskey..i feel very sayang to let him go. I believe LFC sold him to make way for Cisse. Although he might not score lots of goals (he might be asked to do so under Houllier regime), he seldom give away possesion easily. Had he started the game as alone striker rather than Sinama against Chelsea, there would be more chances and holding back the ball in around the box. In terms of size, header, able to survive under tackle, he is one of the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wong_se
    this is very true..and u also missed out Babbel..who suffer some kind of stranger virus that attack him until he can hardly move a finger.

    i dun think the pitch is bad or we have been cursed. it must be the player size and injury tolerance level. All are them u mention are very thin and not muscular. Look at Heskey, Diouf, Diao, Hamann, Robert Song, Titi Camera...all seldom injured..

    Talk about heskey..i feel very sayang to let him go. I believe LFC sold him to make way for Cisse. Although he might not score lots of goals (he might be asked to do so under Houllier regime), he seldom give away possesion easily. Had he started the game as alone striker rather than Sinama against Chelsea, there would be more chances and holding back the ball in around the box. In terms of size, header, able to survive under tackle, he is one of the best.
    Yeah.. i think heskey is an asset. He gives liverpool an option that we dun have. talking abt his lack of goals... he's scoring like a madman at birmingham... i think he scored 5 in 6 games recently?

    If you noticed abt the injuries... it's usually the native europeans that gets injured more easily. I think it's true that genetically, the blacks or african or afro (trying hard to be politically correct) are the stronger brunch. You hardly see players like Viera and Henry injured but player like Zidane and Nedved gets injured more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nemesis32
    If you noticed abt the injuries... it's usually the native europeans that gets injured more easily. I think it's true that genetically, the blacks or african or afro (trying hard to be politically correct) are the stronger brunch. You hardly see players like Viera and Henry injured but player like Zidane and Nedved gets injured more?
    I never dount Heskey is an asset player..U wonder why Heskey and Diouf werer not scoring goals during Houllier regime but both are banging goals now in Birmingham and Bolton respectively. I dun believe in the 1st and 2nd season, heskey was able to score goals then suddenly he lost all the sense...and still wondering why 2 times African National player could turn into a flop buy when come to Liverpool. it might (i said it "might") be the case when the manager asked heskey to only take the ball and let others to run into the box and do the supplying. or asked Diouf to stay wide...run down the ball into right flank and cross in as supply. We never know..But what I see now..both of them are scoring now..

    And the most interesting part - Diouf scored more goals with bolton playing less than half a season than his days with LFC for 2 full seasons.

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