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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    another nuclear related incident. now this is just playing the blame game and all -.-

    Canadian Nuclear Power Plant Leaks Radioactive Water
    I presumed the radioactivity in the water is a result of beta decay from tritium, a radioisotope of hydrogen. The equivalent dose absorbed by the human body upon contact should be extremely insignificant since even tritium is found in portable water naturally as all food sources in the world are "radioactively contaminated" to a certain extent since the first atomic weapon was detonated.

    Really a non-issue, USS Houston (SSN-713) was berthed at Changi Naval Base (CNB) for 5 days in September 2006 when it incidentally discharged "radioactive water" from its reactor secondary coolant loop. The amount leaked was measured at 0.095 μCi (microcurie) which again is really negligible.

    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    The water pour from helicopters look inaccurate. They need this.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:4316MAT5.jpg
    Since the sea, the plane can scoop up water fast and repeatedly douse.
    Hello, you'll want to inject saline into somebody's vein not splash water all over his body.
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    UPDATED: Japan Photo Industry Affected by Earthquake and Tsunami

    For those who are interested to know, almost all the camera and accessories manufacturers are affected by this huge Japan earthquake and tsunami.

    http://www.adorama.com/ALC/News.aspx...ke-and-Tsunami


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    Wonder why the Japanese refused the aid from States on this power plant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ongoinglearner View Post
    Wonder why the Japanese refused the aid from States on this power plant.
    Read my post.
    They have secrets. Nuclear secrets.
    In the past few years, their PM post has been a revolving door with a new PM every few months.
    The military is unlikely to reveal anything top secret to these temporary PMs. Because soon, it will be someone else.
    Then too many people know top military secrets.

    It is the same with the sunken Russian Sub. Only at the very last do they accept help from Norwegian divers. But then too late to save the crew. Too many military secrets in the sub. Everyone is also mindful of what happened in WW2, when the British recovered a sunken German U boat and found a complete Enigma coding machine. It helped them to break the German secret code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    Read my post.
    They have secrets. Nuclear secrets.
    In the past few years, their PM post has been a revolving door with a new PM every few months.
    The military is unlikely to reveal anything top secret to these temporary PMs. Because soon, it will be someone else.
    Then too many people know top military secrets.

    It is the same with the sunken Russian Sub. Only at the very last do they accept help from Norwegian divers. But then too late to save the crew. Too many military secrets in the sub. Everyone is also mindful of what happened in WW2, when the British recovered a sunken German U boat and found a complete Enigma coding machine. It helped them to break the German secret code.
    Also consider that this plant is around 40 years old. That's a lot of secrets!
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    The Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty Organisation (CTBTO), which has 90 monitors around the world to detect radioactivity from nuclear bomb tests, has already detected radiation in neighbouring Russia. Using historical data from Chinese bomb tests, it estimates that it will take a further 10 to 14 days to reach Europe.

    Lars-Erik De Geer, research director at the Swedish Defence Research Institute, a government agency, said that iodine and caesium particles had been picked up in Russia. "It is not something you see normally," he said. "But it is nothing to be scared of at all." He said he was convinced they would eventually be detected over the whole northern hemisphere. "In the past when they had nuclear weapons tests in China ... then there were similar clouds all the time without anybody caring about it at all," he said.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...fortnight.html

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    The answer is in their plant's #3 reactor. Look at what they are using as fuel - Plutonium instead of Uranium. Plutonium can be use to build nuclear weapon after the fuel rods are spent. They are 2-3 times more costly than Uranium and are more dangerouos than Uranium so you figure out why they would use Plutonium.

    Wonder with Japan's industrial and the technology strength, how fast they can assemble nuclear bombs when needed?
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    Expect them to have such weapons for a long time already. It is precisely because they suffered at the receiving end of atomic bombs, that they would strongly feel that they must have nuclear weapons as a defence against future threats. Even less technologically advanced countries like India and Pakistan already have it.
    China had hydrogen bombs since 1967. The Japanese know what they did in Nanking, though they officially deny it. So the fear is always there of retribution. That is why Japan freaked out when China announced its defence budget.
    North Korea also tries to make nuclear weapons.
    It is naive to expect the Japanese not to defend themselves.
    They may skirt the issue by not putting in one last component into the weapon, which they could in a few minutes if they want to. And thus proclaim that they do not have nuclear weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    Expect them to have such weapons for a long time already. It is precisely because they suffered at the receiving end of atomic bombs, that they would strongly feel that they must have nuclear weapons as a defence against future threats. Even less technologically advanced countries like India and Pakistan already have it.
    China had hydrogen bombs since 1967. North Korea tries to make.
    The Japanese know what they did in Nanking, though they officially deny it. So the fear is always there of retribution.
    It is naive to expect the Japanese not to defend themselves.
    Like somebody said in his book title - Hard Facts.
    Please don't bluff ourselves.
    At the risk of running the thread off-track, I'll indulge you.

    On the topic of defending oneself by having a nuclear weapon. I believe the first idea would be of deterrence, which works by announcing to your would-be aggressors that you have nuclear weapons.

    How would having a nuclear weapon or producing facility but keeping it a secret,serve to deter your enemies? Are you suggesting that they are keeping it hidden, but adopting the you-bomb-me-first-then-I-bomb-you approach? Besides that, its an accusation that they have willfully violated the Non-proliferation treaty.

    For quite a few reasons, they have chosen to stay under the nuclear umbrella of the US instead of building their own weapons.

    Maybe you might be proven right eventually, but it is dangerous and irresponsible to claim it as facts when no other news information at the moment supports it.
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    ok , i am going to ask a question. mod, if this is sensitive, please feel free to delete it.

    why aren't they sending foods to the people? i watched bbc and cnn and noticed they only have 1 banana or 1 biscuit per day, not both. how to survive? even the hospital itself don't have enough food.

    1: is it because they cant reach the shelter ? what about helicopter?
    2: it is because of the radiation? hence volunteer/support will not go there?
    3: i can see more camera crews compare to helpers. what happened?
    Objection !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    Expect them to have such weapons for a long time already. It is precisely because they suffered at the receiving end of atomic bombs, that they would strongly feel that they must have nuclear weapons as a defence against future threats. Even less technologically advanced countries like India and Pakistan already have it.
    China had hydrogen bombs since 1967. The Japanese know what they did in Nanking, though they officially deny it. So the fear is always there of retribution. 血債血償. That is why Japan freaked out when China announced its defence budget.
    North Korea also tries to make nuclear weapons.
    It is naive to expect the Japanese not to defend themselves.
    They may skirt the issue by not putting in one last component into the weapon, which they could in a few minutes if they want to. And thus proclaim that they do not have nuclear weapons.
    Like somebody said in his book title - Hard Facts.
    Please don't bluff ourselves.
    What is fed to the public and what intelligence services of various countries already know can be two different things.
    hydrogen bomb and Nuclear bomb, which is more powerful ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninelives View Post
    ok , i am going to ask a question. mod, if this is sensitive, please feel free to delete it.

    why aren't they sending foods to the people? i watched bbc and cnn and noticed they only have 1 banana or 1 biscuit per day, not both. how to survive? even the hospital itself don't have enough food.

    1: is it because they cant reach the shelter ? what about helicopter?
    2: it is because of the radiation? hence volunteer/support will not go there?
    3: i can see more camera crews compare to helpers. what happened?
    i guess the authority is stopping ppl from going in. more ppl gets radiated, more complicated for the government (it is all about money and compensation, classified information, facility, dark issue). so i think their mindset is those ppl inside die better than more ppl die. and japanese die better than those international ppl like Red cross helper die. boils down to 'hidden agenda' or they want to contain the damage

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    sometimes one's dead is not as painful as those who are living.. in fact, living is an agony..

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    hydrogen bomb and Nuclear bomb, which is more powerful ?
    hydrogen is more powerful.

    nuclear bomb is an umbrella term for bombs that perform a nuclear reaction. An atomic bomb is a kind of nuclear bomb that does nuclear fission, while hydrogen bombs do nuclear fusion.

    http://library.thinkquest.org/C005271F/atohyd.html
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    Japan repeatedly rejected USA offers to help provide coolant specially airlifted into Japan a few hours after the nuclear plant incident. Also rejected US offer to supply helicopters. Why?

    http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%...18-268871.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    Japan repeatedly rejected USA offers to help provide coolant specially airlifted into Japan a few hours after the nuclear plant incident. Also rejected US offer to supply helicopters. Why?

    http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%...18-268871.html

    http://todaysdefense.com/?p=463
    I think it is a matter of pride.
    To accept outside help is to show that they are incompetent and unable to handle the situation.

    But now the situation is that more people go in, more people will eventaully die of radiation poisoning. Current radiation protective suit have limitation so it cannot protect the person against long term exposure to radiation.

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    9pm CNA TV news just said confirm cesium radiation found in Japan. Another program earlier today (can't remember BBC or CNN) got expert saying cesium radiation is the dangerous one. Because it attacks the bones and muscles and is impossible to flush out of body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    the scary part of radiation poisoning is not instant death. it's always the aftermath in years to come
    The problem is the irrational phobia of ionising radiation (and even non-ionising radiation) had been extremely exaggerated in the general public through decades of misinformation, a "radioactive cloud" with readings hundreds of million times below the recommended annual dosage spreads halfway around the world and people start panicking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chngpe01 View Post
    please help.

    Thank you.

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