You mean the LX3's 800 actually looks like crap???
Last edited by kriegsketten; 2nd March 2011 at 10:57 PM.
aiyoh, scared to answer this type of question...
No la, not that you SHOULDN'T, just be prepared to accept a bit of noise in the shadow area la...
You want great dynamic range and no noise at all even in high ISO, is asking for a bit much with present technology I feel.
Just as an example, I mistakenly shot a night scene (like 930pm) of Marina Bay last weekend @ ISO1600. The noise in the black sky is noticeable, though probably can be greatly reduced with appropriate software.
But if taking portraits at 3200 in dimly-lit environment, I think the outcome is totally acceptable. Just over-expose slightly and bring down the exposure in PP, should be pretty all right.
Me have no issue with current "High ISO performance" tecnhology + BIG aperature lens .. very happy alreadi
totally spoilt by modern technology.
anyway Kriegs, I spoke to the pre-press manager in my ex-company. I asked him if a 12MP image was sufficient to print magazine quality A3 size. He seemed to do some quick mental calculation and they scoffed it off with an "off course enough!" though said that the JPG must be saved in Fine resolution.
so I kinda left it at that. Didn't think it was appropriate to prolong the conversation coz he seemed a bit busy.
Last edited by kriegsketten; 3rd March 2011 at 10:16 AM.
No lah, I wasn't saying one shouldn't expect noise at 3200. But given that you've used D90 before, how is that compared to D700's 3200? A bit hard to determine for sure, just wondering. Reason being, I've shot at 3200 using D90 and the details are pretty bit lossy... Wondering how great an improvement is D700 on that.
I threat 3200 as D90's maximum ISO acceptability - not be used all the time but only when necessary. I gather D700's and D7000's 6400 is the max, but the halfway mark (3200) should be pretty acceptable. Whereas, 1600 (1/2 of 3200) on D90 is pretty acceptable to me. Hence my asking.
Bro.. got it...
For me personally, my take is that the whole ISO rating provided is usable.. I have tried H1 or H2 rating with wide-open 2.8 (while on a boat crusing).. it is a shot that most people will say CMI.. but for me it is aOK.. acceptable (and it carry my memories)..
If I could have taken the shot on land (with a tripod), I would have done it to make it a CanMI shot.. maybe even bring the ISO down to 100 (or lower)... guess what I'm saying is use a low ISO when possible, if not just pump up to the necessary ISO level and shoot...
I quite like the grainy effect of the TriX400 B/W film, so I think there are also agroup that dont mind the noise at high ISO because it is afterall more "natural"...
Bro.. not trying to do a fist-fight.. just chat-chat with own pt-of-view.. PEACE, Bro Kriegs,,,
Last edited by ClemC; 3rd March 2011 at 10:26 AM.
Since when we're even into a fist fight?? Maybe I need to add smilies to all my posts...
No lah... far from any arguments... just talking openly...
Noise level acceptabilities are pretty much based on individual preferences... For me, I keep thinking of magazine acceptability... But on the personal level, I cap it at 1600 (for D90), if die die wanna have sharp image in a dark area, then 3200 and above... otherwise, use flash...
DD where r u?!!
Nikkon D90 | AF-S NIKKOR 18-105mm 1:35-5.6G | DI866 External Flashlight | AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f/1.4G
Sky, DD maybe (most likely) be busy right now...
dun threaten me!!
hehehe I dunno about D700/D7000, but my LX3 seems all right @ 3200. Ok gimme some time and I try to do some tests for your reference. I'm bad at this testing stuff... see how my 'YN460II' review kinda ground to a halt. Wanted to do some controlled tests, but couldn't find a suitable venue.