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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XVII

    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    ClemC, 70-200 durian leh... dunno VR II or I...but going with price, you might wanna check leh - if VR I too ex liao...
    Thanks .. will have a look

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    wah... you do scan this just try to find an explanation. Thank you.
    Just curious, is ADL an additional process that the camera will do or it is just taking the raw file and lighten up the shadow?
    Bro CT - read the thread - i think the whole page is about what is ADL ...
    As for me, I have sufficient info to make up my mind..

    as for the image.. no need to scan la.. I was reading the online version of a manual.. just cut & paste only... you just reminded me to remove the image

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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten

    I print screened... Convinced yet?
    Bro, tks for taking the effort to do a comparison
    To be frank, I can't say that I'm 100% convinced that ADL is some magic step in the image capturing process that somehow lifts the shadows.
    Your ViewNX software has applied the ADL 'preset' (if I may call it that) to the NEF file.
    You can see that between the 2 screen shots that the brightness, contrast etc settings are different. if indeed ADL were a hardware step, then 2 essentially identical NEFs with exactly the same presets would yield 2 different results.
    Correct me if I'm wrong to think along those lines.
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    Two things.

    1. View in LCD is a jpeg thumbnail rendered with in cam settings.

    2. Cam settings are stored as info in a raw file. When using viewNX, it will read that info automatically apply the in-cam jpeg settings to the image by default.

    So you can really only compare if you open it using lightroom or adobe ACR. Both of which will only apply very limited settings like WB.
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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XVII

    Okay, dully noted. Thanks for the clarifications. That means, if you want to keep the ADL settings, you would have to open it up in ViewNX and save a jpeg from there. Otherwise, opening it in PS or LR would mean not having done anything to the image at all. Comprende.
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    Btw, it means I'm inclined to believe ADL is software processing and not hardware. Understood-ed about pre-sets, and LCD previews too.
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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XVII

    Quote Originally Posted by ClemC View Post
    Thanks .. will have a look


    Bro CT - read the thread - i think the whole page is about what is ADL ...
    As for me, I have sufficient info to make up my mind..

    as for the image.. no need to scan la.. I was reading the online version of a manual.. just cut & paste only... you just reminded me to remove the image
    ClemC I assume you did inquire and the outcome is that it is VR I and it is way over priced? I just noticed a price change...
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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XVII

    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    ClemC I assume you did inquire and the outcome is that it is VR I and it is way over priced? I just noticed a price change...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    Okay, dully noted. Thanks for the clarifications. That means, if you want to keep the ADL settings, you would have to open it up in ViewNX and save a jpeg from there. Otherwise, opening it in PS or LR would mean not having done anything to the image at all. Comprende.
    Ya, that is my understanding so far.
    That's why I was going on about how ADL is useless to me, coz I import into LR3 and then click my own pre-defined presets and adjust from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra

    Ya, that is my understanding so far.
    That's why I was going on about how ADL is useless to me, coz I import into LR3 and then click my own pre-defined presets and adjust from there.
    That is to say it is an in-camera post processing. Not a function that happen when the process of capturing a photo happen.
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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XVII

    Just tested out the ADL on my D90 from my bedroom window. Took with ADL to 'off' and ADL to 'high', using manual exposure mode and Auto-ISO=off in order to keep the exposure consistent from shot to shot. They certainly looked different on my camera LCD

    Imported both NEFs into LR3 and applied the same preset (so that all the values are consistent).
    Absolutely NO difference whatsoever. So this confirms my hunch. ADL is a software feature that is applied to the PP.
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    Yo ClemC! Another durian plopped! A bit higher than what you're hoping for by considering it's still quite new?

    Wah...today really dun want to wake up man... soooooo nice to hibernate....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    Yo ClemC! Another durian plopped! A bit higher than what you're hoping for by considering it's still quite new?

    Wah...today really dun want to wake up man... soooooo nice to hibernate....
    bamboo/durian?
    yeah... nice to zzzzzzzzzzzzZzzz... hehehehhee...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra View Post
    bamboo/durian?
    yeah... nice to zzzzzzzzzzzzZzzz... hehehehhee...
    Yeah... but felt guilty for wasting a perfect day like that so woke up to prepare toast bread + kopi + half-boiled eggs breakfast... :P Self contradictory isn't it?
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    Yup, bamboo durian...

    But there are others too...

    There's a siggy 150mm macro... nice price. Then there's a D3s... wooohoooo so damn tempting...but I not ready leh... :P

    AND if I'm not wrong, there was a lowly priced D7K yesterday too....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    Yeah... but felt guilty for wasting a perfect day like that so woke up to prepare toast bread + kopi + half-boiled eggs breakfast... :P Self contradictory isn't it?
    Mmmmmm home-made Ya Kun breakfast.... yummy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    Yup, bamboo durian...

    But there are others too...

    There's a siggy 150mm macro... nice price. Then there's a D3s... wooohoooo so damn tempting...but I not ready leh... :P

    AND if I'm not wrong, there was a lowly priced D7K yesterday too....

    hahahaha none of the durians are suited to my taste
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra View Post
    hahahaha none of the durians are suited to my taste
    Somebody just posted 14-24....
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    Also NOT my durian
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    Default Re: DNP0i$onou$ Clubh0us3 - TCSS Thread XVII

    THIS is way cool

    Can show this to all the newbies who treat DSLRs like they're made of cotton wool
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZerocoolAstra View Post
    THIS is way cool

    Can show this to all the newbies who treat DSLRs like they're made of cotton wool

    See before. You would like to take the lead with your Lx3? For me, unless I'm certain I don't need to re-sell the body for any possible future upgrade... anything's possible.
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