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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassEye View Post
    Wrong, over there they stone the women!
    yea man... that i don't condone. like the fact that you don't condone the exploitation of women, i don't think you would condone that as well.

    actually. i should commend you. there're few men like yourself these days and i do respect that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnagIt View Post
    This thread is getting personal. Happy seller happy buyer. Can't stop it, live with it
    Wrong, it just shows that there is a healthy debate going on amongst mature, thinking people with different views. Dont stifle debate and exchange of ideas or else you are a tyrant/dictator to be ousted in a popular uprising!
    Debates and civil discussions lead to a more knowledgeable population.
    Some people here may, after reading the arguments for and against, change their opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    LOL i'm not liberal to the point where there should be lingerie ads all over the place. looking at the triumph ads vs agent provocateur ads, you'll see a difference.

    not trying to impose any view. (by the way i am a Christian) and against sexual exploitation, but i'm also practical in the sense that it's a business.

    btw: the ads are actually mainly targeting men to buy it for their wives/girlfriends
    That being the case, that ad should be in lad magazines like FHM! I have nothing against that. I have nothing against those young women posing semi-naked in FHM . . that is their choice. But I wonder if they would show those magazine pictures to their fathers?

    Having said that, I have been told by some women friends that they do not like to see men in the lingerie department. Ooops that is another story, just like men carrying their women's handbags!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassEye View Post
    Wrong, over there they stone the women!
    I am glad you're not one of them

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Kahuna View Post
    It was not something new and it won't be the last, so I guess the ads was probably posted at the wrong place at the wrong time...imagin if this is posted in a shopping mall or in Orchard road...then it won't be drawing such a big reaction
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    I am not a religious person, fear of God doesnt mean I am religious but just a personal value of doing the right thing not to exploit others.

    Having said that, I am very clued to the world, open-minded and well-travelled.
    I cant change the world. I have to accept that there are people with other views.
    I am NOT imposing my views on anybody, just sharing my sentiments.
    Just want to say something against the exploitation of women and using sex to sell anything because in many instances, you will see that there is actually no need to have scantily-clad women to sell the products! Take for example, car shows! What is with this race-queen thingy?

    Anyway, Happy Chap Goh Mei, going back for dinner, end of discussion . . trust we all had a good time 'discussing' this. No offence meant. If you are taliban or Hugh Hefner, I will still accept you as my friend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canonised View Post
    You are joking, right?
    which part? first sentence or the second one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by koplady11 View Post
    Whoa, this debate is interesting, and I have not yet even expressed my views. Looks like it is quite clear from here the 2 divided opinions.

    Honestly, I wouldn't have thought twice about the ad until I hear for myself how men actually ogle at them. Maybe I have been so attuned to such ads coz I'm a lady myself and to me, its just selling a brand name. Maybe this time, the board of censorship for advertisements gave them the green light as it does not depict nudity, though it definitely is very suggestive.

    Have you guys ever watched "American's Next Top Model"? Do you know that although such girls appear to be shallow and bimbotic, there were so many shoots that got many of them breaking down, being awkward, the level you go thru just to sell a product... That's your sexual exploitation there. The pain behind the pictures one wouldn't know of.

    But everyone here has a point. Glasseye refuses to support any products marketed through sexual exploitation, whereas kei has a more liberal opinion that Sg should be more open to such provocative ads that are everywhere in the world. The problem here, is the product itself. How do you promote lingerie without provoking any sexual innuendo when lingerie itself is sthg related to sex/sexuality empowerment? Pls be reminded that women do not necessarily wear lingerie for men but for comfort as well. Maybe what the ad shd sell is comfort? No?

    But guys, chill pls!!! I will close this nonetheless interesting thread if it gets out of hand!
    great point of view..
    i think this doesn't count as sexual exploitation of women.. it does not show any nudity.. it is done carefully and artistically.. the model got paid, how is that counted as exploitation?

    i got a feeling someone will make noise about mannequin in the future, because it depicts the woman body and thus considered exploitation.. sigh..

    be mature in your thinking.. no one, including your gf, wives, moms, grandma, etc etc, will complain if the guys don't look at it as a sex symbol (read: ogle and drooling all over) but just take it easy, looking at it as an art and advertising..

    sometimes, people need to be more relaxed in their thinking.. don't be too fanatic..

    i am anti exploitation of women, but i don't see any part of this ad is exploiting them..
    why no one is complaining about the sex shops along orchard, ah? more BOYS (18 and BELOW) are ogling in front of the shops rather than just looking at the ad.. and they are advertising the shops with provocative depictions of women.. the ad is at least 2x larger, with "toys" in front of the shops..

    why hasn't anyone making a lot of noise about that, instead making a lot of negative comments about ad that is carefully done and doesn't have any provocative poses in it?
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    Glasseye is right..... car show queens/race queens is another exploitative area.

    High-def :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnsQcZlHoDU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scuyObg0iOk

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    Quote Originally Posted by SurrealDreamWalker View Post
    victoria secret should be banned on TV....i can't believe it's showing on channel 5. looks like porn.

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    this is worst than victoria secret. i can't believe it's on youtube. ban!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassEye View Post
    I am not a religious person, fear of God doesnt mean I am religious but just a personal value of doing the right thing not to exploit others.

    Having said that, I am very clued to the world, open-minded and well-travelled.
    I cant change the world. I have to accept that there are people with other views.
    I am NOT imposing my views on anybody, just sharing my sentiments.
    Just want to say something against the exploitation of women and using sex to sell anything because in many instances, you will see that there is actually no need to have scantily-clad women to sell the products! Take for example, car shows! What is with this race-queen thingy?

    Anyway, Happy Chap Goh Mei, going back for dinner, end of discussion . . trust we all had a good time 'discussing' this. No offence meant. If you are taliban or Hugh Hefner, I will still accept you as my friend!
    this i have to agree.. i am more interested in the machines, there is no need to exploit these girls, unless you have a very bad/ugly products that you need these girls to do the advertising for you..

    but in the case of lingerie, or any other ladies' products, it is inevitable that we use some kind of ladies elements inside, am i right? i can't imagine we use the guy in the picture earlier (with camo-dot bra) is used to advertise these products..

    i can agree to some extent that this ad may be a little inappropriate (though i can't see anything wrong with it) after looking at some of the response.. but i can't see the ad as being exploitative..
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    Gone half a day and back... Wow, 7 pages long! Koplady, you certainly picked the topic of the day!
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    Gone half a day and back... Wow, 7 pages long! Koplady, you certainly picked the topic of the day!
    Now why am I not surprised?? Lol. Should I close this thread or does anybody else wanna contribute? Lol.
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    Let me add this:

    http://www.everythingweird.com/entry/corrupted-mind/

    A corrupted mind sees things corrupted...

    A pure mind sees things pure...

    If your mind isn't corrupted, the image is just that - a lady OR man in scantily clad clothes...

    The purest of kids wouldn't be really bothered about such images... But when parents starts to make a big fuss about them, that's when things start to change... innocent minds starts to wonder...
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    And... most of our minds are probably corrupted by now, which is why such strong reactions to the ad image in question.
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    For the sake of discussion... lets just say we totally irradicate anything sexually related - we invent a machine that totally remove the idea of sex that ever existed from our minds... ZAP!!! the human world is COMPLETELY pure once again...

    Just to be extra safe... all birds and the bees and any animals need to be killed as well, coz watching them procreate will ultimately pique our curiousity and lead us back to the original point...

    Lets just say that is possible... so what will happen next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by baggiolee View Post
    victoria secret should be banned on TV....i can't believe it's showing on channel 5. looks like porn.
    LOL... you think you're a BAN-ner ah

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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    For the sake of discussion... lets just say we totally irradicate anything sexually related - we invent a machine that totally remove the idea of sex that ever existed from our minds... ZAP!!! the human world is COMPLETELY pure once again...

    Just to be extra safe... all birds and the bees and any animals need to be killed as well, coz watching them procreate will ultimately pique our curiousity and lead us back to the original point...

    Lets just say that is possible... so what will happen next?

    You would have then killed the human race. There is absolutely nothing anyone can do as everything's built-in hardwired. Watch Discovery Channel....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2100 View Post
    You would have then killed the human race. There is absolutely nothing anyone can do as everything's built-in hardwired. Watch Discovery Channel....
    I'm not saying I wish that to happen... Just theoretically speaking what would happen next?
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