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    Not claiming to be an expert of Aristotle, but I do think the concepts have guided me in some way or another in my life since my early years till now in coping with societal issues and human interactions...

    Who else is familiar with his 3 concepts? And what are your takes on them? While this is kopitiam, and the possibility of getting OT is very strong... can we engage in at least some form of meaningful discussion?
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    Here's some reading (with paragraphs detailing his 3 takes on friendships) for those who are unfamiliar: http://www.infed.org/biblio/friendship.htm

    His concept of friendship impacts me the most and till this day, I do think about them whenever the need occurs...
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    Who knows? It might help you tackle your problems like it helped me during my troubled years...

    Are there other views of friendship (from other philosophers) that you would like to share, and that has helped you with your life?
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    1) Friendship of Utility

    2) Friendship of Pleasure

    3) Friendship of Virtue

    What kinds of friends do you have in your midst?

    Friendship of Virtue is the rare form and pretty hard to find in one's life... if you have them, you are fortunate...
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    1) Friendship of Utility

    2) Friendship of Pleasure

    3) Friendship of Virtue

    What kinds of friends do you have in your midst?

    Friendship of Virtue is the rare form and pretty hard to find in one's life... if you have them, you are fortunate...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYRN View Post
    Friends of FaceBook.
    What's Facebook? A book with a face?

    Edit: correction... a book with billion faces?
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    Forget that I don't have an account on Facebook...

    What kinds of friends can you find on Facebook anyway? Old friends, new friends, gaming friends, friends of interest, as well as unfriendly friends that you wish to unfriend?
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    Okay.... now I go friend the Sleep God.... he tells me it's way too late to start a serious discussion....
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    Hi kriegsketten,

    Very interesting subject. This types of questions is related to Humanism.

    I think the answers lies in the 'Silver Rule', a teaching by a famous and profound Asian thinker - Confucius.

    子貢問曰:“有一言而可以終身行之者乎”?子曰:“其恕乎!己所不欲、勿施於人。”

    Zi gong (a disciple of Confucius) asked: "Is there any one word that could guide a person throughout life?"
    The Master replied: "How about 'shu' [reciprocity]: never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself?"
    Analects XV.24, tr.
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    Okay, I bargained with the Sleep God for a few more minutes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurrealDreamWalker View Post
    Hi kriegsketten,

    Very interesting subject. This types of questions is related to Humanism.

    I think the answers lies in the 'Silver Rule', a teaching by a famous and profound Asian thinker - Confucius.

    子貢問曰:“有一言而可以終身行之者乎”?子曰:“其恕乎!己所不欲、勿施於人。”

    Zi gong (a disciple of Confucius) asked: "Is there any one word that could guide a person throughout life?"
    The Master replied: "How about 'shu' [reciprocity]: never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself?"
    Analects XV.24, tr.
    How about an example of how you'd apply the above on friendship?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    How about an example of how you'd apply the above on friendship?
    to put it simply, i believe it's "don't do to others, what you wouldn't like others to do to you"

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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    How about an example of how you'd apply the above on friendship?
    Betrayal. And being taken advantage of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    to put it simply, i believe it's "don't do to others, what you wouldn't like others to do to you"
    Quote Originally Posted by SurrealDreamWalker View Post
    Betrayal. And being taken advantage of.
    Have you ever been betrayed by your so-called "true friends"? I find it hard to believe if no one has never been betrayed before... call it part and parcel of life (as we know it)...
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    as long as there are humans on earth, there will always be evil.

    oh and, only your friends can betray you. your enemies most certainly can't

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    Are there such thing as "Bossom friends"? Aristotle says Bossom friends - falls under "friends of virtue".... friends that you'd really call friends and they really, genuinely care for you...
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    i think you mean bosom friends

    those are damn rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    as long as there are humans on earth, there will always be evil.

    oh and, only your friends can betray you. your enemies most certainly can't
    What is the concept of evil? Is it what we (the more advanced creature) have created it? And there are many forms of evil...

    Enemies can be friends one day and in turn can become enemies again... It's nothing but a passing moment in life... so yes... one day, your "enemy" can betray you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    i think you mean bosom friends

    those are damn rare.
    So you're the first to admit all (if not most) of your friends are either friends of utility or pleasure?

    I used to think I have at least one bosom friend... but now I can hardly be sure... Oh how time erodes friendship....

    Edit: my bad... I meant bosom friends... lolz...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    Have you ever been betrayed by your so-called "true friends"? I find it hard to believe if no one has never been betrayed before... call it part and parcel of life (as we know it)...
    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    as long as there are humans on earth, there will always be evil.

    oh and, only your friends can betray you. your enemies most certainly can't
    Quote Originally Posted by kriegsketten View Post
    Are there such thing as "Bossom friends"? Aristotle says Bossom friends - falls under "friends of virtue".... friends that you'd really call friends and they really, genuinely care for you...
    Yes. This is Life.

    It was in the Past. But it served as a good lesson - be careful of whom you considers 'friends'.

    Sometimes it is good to be alone. Of course friends are needed. It is fated.

    True friends are your family members and spouses.
    "There are no mistakes, only lessons. Growth is a process of trials and errors."

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