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    Hi,

    The other day I noticed a thread about tripods. Some members were recommending tripods costing S$200+++.

    Ballheads are S$100+++

    I just saw a thread with MO for a ~S$100 quick release plate.

    The mind boggles. Really. Or maybe there is something I don't really get.

    Why blow so much money on things that are basically low tech? What's the advantage?

    I am using a S$19 tripod bought in Carrefour. Since three years, the only problem was a plastic knob on one of the screws went away after I screw it too hard. But a drop of cheap super glue from HomeFix fixed it. It's as stable as the next guy's S$200+ tripod (I think, since both are stabilized by gravity ) . But mine's much lighter. The head is crappy, agreed. Panning would be very jerky. But I am using it for stills, not a movie, so it doesn't matter.

    So, why? Why spend so much money on tripods+accessories, when the cheap stuff works the same??? Is it another aspect of "my camera is bigger/badder/more expensive than yours" games or am I just missing something?

    Discuss...

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    If you've own heavier camera and lenses, you'll soon find that those $20 tripods just don't cut out anymore.

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    there's something called super-ego :P

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    A $20 tripod will never support a DSLR body with a super-telephoto lens. Sometimes it's not just about super-ego. It's about getting the right equipment for the job.

    If it was possible, who'd not want to buy a $20 tripod to use and lug a big heavy tripod around that costs $500 and up.

    Your case is only valid if you have a small digital camera. I used to use the CP5700 and SB-80DX on a $50 tripod, it can't even sustain the weight. Also don't forget, when knocked into the tripod should be stable, given a $20 tripod doubt it would even be stable in the first place.

    Ratio the amount you spent on the camera and then see if $300 is justifiable for a tripod or not. If you spend $600 on a digital camera, of course it's not justifiable. But for others who've spent $6K on a camera, $10K on a lens, I don't see why getting a $1K tripod is considered extreme (if I may paraphrase).

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    when u have heavy dslr u definitely need somethng more stable..

    when u shoot in extreme weather conditions, eg strong wind.. the stability of ur tripod is key to getting good pics..

    or when u do say star trails and need to expose ur shots for hours.. etc etc etc.. the experts can justify better here

    but for wknd & occasional shooters like u & me, yeah probably not worth it..

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    It depends on individual needs and wants I guess. A sub $10 disposable camera can take pics, so why go for a digital camera that costs many times more, not to mention DSLR+lenses that cost even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromba
    Hi,

    The other day I noticed a thread about tripods. Some members were recommending tripods costing S$200+++.

    Ballheads are S$100+++

    I just saw a thread with MO for a ~S$100 quick release plate.

    The mind boggles. Really. Or maybe there is something I don't really get.

    Why blow so much money on things that are basically low tech? What's the advantage?

    I am using a S$19 tripod bought in Carrefour. Since three years, the only problem was a plastic knob on one of the screws went away after I screw it too hard. But a drop of cheap super glue from HomeFix fixed it. It's as stable as the next guy's S$200+ tripod (I think, since both are stabilized by gravity ) . But mine's much lighter. The head is crappy, agreed. Panning would be very jerky. But I am using it for stills, not a movie, so it doesn't matter.

    So, why? Why spend so much money on tripods+accessories, when the cheap stuff works the same??? Is it another aspect of "my camera is bigger/badder/more expensive than yours" games or am I just missing something?

    Discuss...
    Alrighty , maybe you'd like to support a 1.5Kg lens and 1.5kg camera body worth >$5K on a $19 tripod, but IMO that would be.....ummmm......penny wise, pound foolish?

    I do have a $25 no-brand aluminium tripod, but only for my 700gm camcorder.

    There are tripods and there are tripods, need to buy and use appropriately.

    Cheers,

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    I agree with dkw. Unstable tripod will affect the stability of the camera and in turn affect the quality of the picture. When you spent thousands of dollars for high quality lenses so as to get high quality pictures, having an unstable tripod will defeat the purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromba
    So, why? Why spend so much money on tripods+accessories, when the cheap stuff works the same??? Is it another aspect of "my camera is bigger/badder/more expensive than yours" games or am I just missing something?

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    why? why in the first place u spent so much on a camera n lens, when a simple P&S can take nice n quality pics too ?

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    Light tripod maybe blow off by strong wind ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumbocrab
    I agree with dkw. Unstable tripod will affect the stability of the camera and in turn affect the quality of the picture. When you spent thousands of dollars for high quality lenses so as to get high quality pictures, having an unstable tripod will defeat the purpose.
    Yup. Not only that, can you imagine how top heavy that set up is? One small gust of wind or a careless bystander walking by........poof!

    Why blow so much money on simple things? Well, why stinge on important things (like a good sturdy tripod!)?

    Cheers,

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    There will always be people who will not understand the right equipment for the right job and it will be very difficult to explain. It is not a matter of ego or mine is bigger and better than yours. You buy the things for your own use not for others therefore no need to explain. Anyway always buy within your means. As you get more influntial you buy better things to pamper yourself and there are always better stuff out there.

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    Bromba,pls discuss.


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    I have a $50 tripod that is stable enough for my old EOS 5QD + 80-200/2.8L combo. Not the heaviest combo, but a good 2kg+. Yes, heavier tripods are more stable, but if that's the case, why do people blow money on lightweight carbon-fibre tripods ? Isn't that counter-productive, in terms of stability. Strong winds ? Well, just hang your bag on the tripod.

    As for reliability, this cheapo tripod ( which is fairly big ) has served me long and hard for 12 years ! Yep, I bought it in 1992, and its still working perfectly.

    I think many people get caught up in the euphoria of buying more expensive stuff, and forget the purpose of the equipment instead. These are the same guys who buy 3GHz PCs so that they can run MS Word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkw
    Yup. Not only that, can you imagine how top heavy that set up is? One small gust of wind or a careless bystander walking by........poof!

    Why blow so much money on simple things? Well, why stinge on important things (like a good sturdy tripod!)?

    Cheers,
    As long as its stable ENOUGH, then its good enough. The key word is ENOUGH. A cheap tripod can be stable enough if you don't overload it. OK, maybe not a $20 tripod, but you don't have to spend $300 to get a stable one.

    Problem is, some people buy all that expensive without any idea of how to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chriszzz
    I have a $50 tripod that is stable enough for my old EOS 5QD + 80-200/2.8L combo. Not the heaviest combo, but a good 2kg+. Yes, heavier tripods are more stable, but if that's the case, why do people blow money on lightweight carbon-fibre tripods ? Isn't that counter-productive, in terms of stability. Strong winds ? Well, just hang your bag on the tripod.

    As for reliability, this cheapo tripod ( which is fairly big ) has served me long and hard for 12 years ! Yep, I bought it in 1992, and its still working perfectly.

    I think many people get caught up in the euphoria of buying more expensive stuff, and forget the purpose of the equipment instead. These are the same guys who buy 3GHz PCs so that they can run MS Word.
    The reason carbon fibre is used because it is an inert material that can absorb and transfer vibrations away from the camera faster than metal. It is also very strong and lightweight. Therefore the manufacturers can built a CF model that can bear the same load as a metal model but weighs less. If you need to hike for long distances the weight savings will save your back. However, if you have transport or people to carry it for you, a heavy and cheaper metal model will do just fine.

    Stability is affected by where the centre of gravity of the whole setup. Therefore, even if the tripod can bear a certain max load, it is not advisable to max the load unless you can bring the centre of gravity down.

    Sometimes people buy 3GHz PCs is because they do not want to sell a 1GHz one and buy a 3GHz one if in near future they need to use a CPU intensive software like Windows 2006, 2007 or 2008 or when you start installing more and more applications.

    Buying things is always about satisfying your own needs and everyone's needs are different. If a $50 tripod serves your needs then great. But for somebody else, it just cannot make it for them and so a $500 one will make them happy. For example, I don't wear a watch and I'm happy with looking at the time on my HP, but for others they have to have a Tag Heuer.

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    It depends actually.

    My chaps recommend me those few hundred buckaroos tripod made outta steel and stuff liddat (I got a feeling like carrying my LAW, SAR21 + Full Pack go for war liddat). I still got a $30 aluminium type tripod dat can tahan the weight of my cam juz nice (since I dun own telephoto lens like pros around here). Might wanna consider a better tripod in the future once I got the moola. But each has their own advantage. I'd certainly not like to lug around an 6kg tripod when I go overseas.

    We can question why must we get L Lens when a 3rd-party one will do well. We can question why muz get a manfrotto tripod dat cost a few hundred buckaroo when a $30 tripod will do the job. In fact, we can question until cows come home, but ultimately, we have our individual unique needs to satisfy which others would probably not understand.

    So, satisfy urself. Not others.

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    Aiya why buy a camera at all, so much problem. Make one yourself lah.
    Like I say no need to explain why you buy this and you buy that. Everybody have different needs and ego to satisfy that is why we are all different. There will always be a different view point to it. Why buy a Nike when a $5 shoe will do, why buy a Tag when a Casio will do, why buy a $30 shirt when others are selling $10, why drink Coke when Pepsi is the same, why............there will be another 10000 to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromba
    Hi,

    The other day I noticed a thread about tripods. Some members were recommending tripods costing S$200+++.

    Ballheads are S$100+++

    I just saw a thread with MO for a ~S$100 quick release plate.

    The mind boggles. Really. Or maybe there is something I don't really get.

    Why blow so much money on things that are basically low tech? What's the advantage?

    I am using a S$19 tripod bought in Carrefour. Since three years, the only problem was a plastic knob on one of the screws went away after I screw it too hard. But a drop of cheap super glue from HomeFix fixed it. It's as stable as the next guy's S$200+ tripod (I think, since both are stabilized by gravity ) . But mine's much lighter. The head is crappy, agreed. Panning would be very jerky. But I am using it for stills, not a movie, so it doesn't matter.

    So, why? Why spend so much money on tripods+accessories, when the cheap stuff works the same??? Is it another aspect of "my camera is bigger/badder/more expensive than yours" games or am I just missing something?

    Discuss...
    I tried almost every tripod in CP & Prime from the cheapest upward until i found the one that could support my camera and lens well. the price was 250+.. then i ask the steven for something similar in stability and cheaper price... I got my tripod. It cost me $185. It is the slik 700dx. i did not seek out the CF tripod because it was too expensive. it is not a senseless exercise.

    you must come and try out camera weight and the environment we shoot in. I used to have a $20 tripod... everytime i press the shutter i can sense minute vibration. the bloody thing is too filmsy.

    if you are shooting on a windy day... your tripod is not going to make it. neither if you are shooting in a factory (coporate shoot) with the machine thumping away...

    you should specify what camera you are using to put things in perpective. If you are using a casio exilim or a canon A80... i can understand. You have not reach the need to invest in a heavier tripod. If you tell me you are using a 1D with 400mm L, and the tripod can cut it.... tell us. i am sure we will fly to buy it and sell off our $$$ trpod.

    in fact, i decided based on the stability of the tripod for my system not because it is expensive.

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