Panasonic confirms new camera including FZ15 &FZ20

lightning69 · 15th July 2004

Hooray...

Panansonic has confirm new FZ15 & FZ20. Luckily I haven't buy the FZ10.

http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp...noreRedirect=1

Parallel · 15th July 2004

That would also mean you have to wait for another 3-4 mths before purchasing the new camera.

lightning69 · 15th July 2004

Originally Posted by Parallel

That would also mean you have to wait for another 3-4 mths before purchasing the new camera.

I hope not. hopefully they can put it in the market in 2 months time.

dotti · 15th July 2004

how do you know it'll be better??

lightning69 · 15th July 2004

Originally Posted by dotti

how do you know it'll be better??

Because technology can only get better and better.

dotti · 15th July 2004

Originally Posted by lightning69

Because technology can only get better and better.

NO!!!

shutterfly · 15th July 2004

Originally Posted by lightning69

Because technology can only get better and better.

Then you are wrong. Many have agreed that 4mp on FZ10 sensor is already reaching its optimal. From the spec, it seems they are trying to sequeeze in 1mp to lure more users. We have seen how canon have failed in their upgrade from g3 to g5 which resulted in more noise.

shutterfly · 15th July 2004

Originally Posted by dotti

NO!!!

Dun worry, dotti. In 3 mths time, you will be a better photographer that those who keeps waiting for better and newer technology.

lightning69 · 15th July 2004

Originally Posted by shutterfly

Then you are wrong. Many have agreed that 4mp on FZ10 sensor is already reaching its optimal. From the spec, it seems they are trying to sequeeze in 1mp to lure more users. We have seen how canon have failed in their upgrade from g3 to g5 which resulted in more noise.

I didn't say I'm gonna purchase the FZ20!

I might just go for the FZ15 which might be an improvement over the FZ10's weaknesses.

And why would you think that the FZ20 might use the same CCD as the FZ10 by just sqeezing out more pixel? It might be a completely new CCD, a larger one perhaps that might improve its low light performance. I'm just saying it could be!!!

Don't ASSUME it to be like canon. Because if you assume wrongly, you would make an "ASS out of U and ME"

shutterfly · 15th July 2004

Originally Posted by lightning69

I didn't say I'm gonna purchase the FZ20! I might just go for the FZ15 which might be an improvement over the FZ10's weaknesses.

And why would you think that the FZ20 might use the same CCD as the FZ10 by just sqeezing out more pixel? It might be a completely new CCD, a larger one perhaps that might improve its low light performance. I'm just saying it could be!!!

Don't ASSUME it to be like canon. Because if you assume wrongly, you would make an "ASS out of U and ME"

Pls re-read. I did not say that it is definitely going to be like Canon. I am just saying newer doesn't always equal to better. Sure they can make a larger sensor but it will only result in a bulkier and more expensive camera. Also I am just making a general statement, not targeting at you.

Zenten · 15th July 2004

If you ask me, I think the FZ15 is merely the FZ10 with a firmware upgrade. This happened in the case of the FZ1 and FZ2. As for technology improving with time, it sometimes doesn't happen that way - I have owned the FZ1 which I upgraded the firmware to FZ2 and frankly speaking, apart from the increase in megapixels and the manual controls of the FZ10, the FZ1 (FZ2) still gives the impression of being a faster camera in terms of processing speed and manageability. I am comparing taking pictures of the same frame size. Furthermore, let's ask ourselves: How many of us actually print on or beyond A4 size? Can Leica produce a better and faster lens for the upcoming models? If yes, I would definitely like to see that. If no, how much more are you going to foot for that extra megapixel?

I am very satisfied with my FZ10.

then · 15th July 2004

going by the past experience of fz1 and fz10 - after the announcement, it will take a couple of months before it is available in japan and then a further few months before it arrives in singapore. unless they decide to do a worldwide or regional launch this time, it can be up to 3-6 months before we can see them in singapore

like all other tech gadgets, there is no end to upgrading and there is no end to waiting as well. if you need it, do some research, just buy it and dont look back. just my personal opinion

reno77 · 15th July 2004

Eh they took the site down ? I cant access it now.

Newguy69 · 15th July 2004

Hi,

I've felt something boiling here. Peace, love and no war man

. Btw, I am proud owner of Oly c8080 but recently exchange with my girlfriend's Pana FZ10 to try it out (me interested in nature and wildlife shooting).

After 1 day of usage, I am impressed with its performance and photo quality and must say that this cam 'Pana FZ10' is a dedicated serious piece of photographic hardware

.

Hope that the price of this babe will drop further soon due the launch of new Z15 and Z20, so that I can give myself a good excuse to buy it.

Once again, peace, love and no war.

Cheers

dotti · 16th July 2004

Originally Posted by shutterfly

Dun worry, dotti. In 3 mths time, you will be a better photographer that those who keeps waiting for better and newer technology.

i feel better now...

my take on this is that everyone's got their choice on when and which camera they want to buy....so lets all cool it! as long as we are pana's children we must stand as one!

Feinwerkbau · 16th July 2004

Did anyone copy the original message announced?

All I get when I try to access the site is this:

Sorry, the product category you requested does not exist or is not available

lightning69 · 16th July 2004

I think panasonic might have remove it.

coldman · 17th July 2004

Originally Posted by Feinwerkbau

Did anyone copy the original message announced?

All I get when I try to access the site is this:

Sorry, the product category you requested does not exist or is not available

so panasonic finally found some fault with their new camera and decided not to release it ha?

lightning69 · 17th July 2004

Originally Posted by coldman

so panasonic finally found some fault with their new camera and decided not to release it ha?

Oh no, the IT guys over at pana are suppose to keep the site off from public access untill the formal announcement on the 20th July but somehow the site got leak out. The are now disabling the link probably until the formal annoucement.

lightning69 · 20th July 2004

The FZ3 has been announced with 3mp, Venus 2 engine, faster start up reaction time, a few millimeters smaller than FZ1/FZ2.

Shortest release time lag 0.008 sec, start up time not confirmed.
Extra bits Tiff, 1/3/9 point AF, real time histogram display, AF assist lamp, spot AF, 30fps movies, 290g

15th July 2004	#1
lightning69 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 380	Panasonic confirms new camera including FZ15 &FZ20 Hooray... Panansonic has confirm new FZ15 & FZ20. Luckily I haven't buy the FZ10. http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp...noreRedirect=1

15th July 2004	#4
dotti Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: strawberry field Posts: 295	how do you know it'll be better?? Last edited by dotti; 15th July 2004 at 02:16 PM.

15th July 2004	#11
Zenten Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,206	Difference Fz10 and FZ15 If you ask me, I think the FZ15 is merely the FZ10 with a firmware upgrade. This happened in the case of the FZ1 and FZ2. As for technology improving with time, it sometimes doesn't happen that way - I have owned the FZ1 which I upgraded the firmware to FZ2 and frankly speaking, apart from the increase in megapixels and the manual controls of the FZ10, the FZ1 (FZ2) still gives the impression of being a faster camera in terms of processing speed and manageability. I am comparing taking pictures of the same frame size. Furthermore, let's ask ourselves: How many of us actually print on or beyond A4 size? Can Leica produce a better and faster lens for the upcoming models? If yes, I would definitely like to see that. If no, how much more are you going to foot for that extra megapixel? I am very satisfied with my FZ10. Last edited by Zenten; 15th July 2004 at 08:23 PM.

15th July 2004	#2
Parallel Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 70	That would also mean you have to wait for another 3-4 mths before purchasing the new camera.

15th July 2004	#12
then Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 64	going by the past experience of fz1 and fz10 - after the announcement, it will take a couple of months before it is available in japan and then a further few months before it arrives in singapore. unless they decide to do a worldwide or regional launch this time, it can be up to 3-6 months before we can see them in singapore like all other tech gadgets, there is no end to upgrading and there is no end to waiting as well. if you need it, do some research, just buy it and dont look back. just my personal opinion

15th July 2004	#13
reno77 Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bedok Reservoir Posts: 881	Eh they took the site down ? I cant access it now.

15th July 2004	#14
Newguy69 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Third rock from the Sun Posts: 1,773	Hi, I've felt something boiling here. Peace, love and no war man . Btw, I am proud owner of Oly c8080 but recently exchange with my girlfriend's Pana FZ10 to try it out (me interested in nature and wildlife shooting). After 1 day of usage, I am impressed with its performance and photo quality and must say that this cam 'Pana FZ10' is a dedicated serious piece of photographic hardware . Hope that the price of this babe will drop further soon due the launch of new Z15 and Z20, so that I can give myself a good excuse to buy it. Once again, peace, love and no war. Cheers

16th July 2004	#16
Feinwerkbau Deregistered Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 836	Did anyone copy the original message announced? All I get when I try to access the site is this: Sorry, the product category you requested does not exist or is not available

20th July 2004	#20
lightning69 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 380	The FZ3 has been announced with 3mp, Venus 2 engine, faster start up reaction time, a few millimeters smaller than FZ1/FZ2. Shortest release time lag 0.008 sec, start up time not confirmed. Extra bits Tiff, 1/3/9 point AF, real time histogram display, AF assist lamp, spot AF, 30fps movies, 290g